SHIP: RE: Questions for R/Hers...

[Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer]

No: HPFGUIDX 12129

Hi --

morine10 at aol.com wrote:

> Ahoy!

Ahoy to you too!

> What I have posted numerous times is this
> -- (ship preference aside)
> --HGTG is IMO simply pairing the main male protagonist with the main
> female protagonist with disregard to the (sometimes subtle) clues left
> by the author that point elsewhere.

Well, the H/H types do not use HGTG as an argument.  We *hate* HGTG --
it's demeaning to Hermione first of all.  It's the *R/H* types who have
used HGTG.  They use it to say that H/H *can't* end up together because
it *would* be HGTG.  But, there are lots of scenarios under which H/H
get together at some point that do not fall into HGTG (IMO).

> This leads me into FITD, which from reading your theories (correct me
> if I'm wrong) it came about by asking youngsters/adolescents *who*
> they thought Hermione liked.

Actually, no, that's not how FITD came into being.  FITD came into being
to explain what alot of us  believe is going on in the subtext of the
books.  We base FITD on what *we* believe are subtle hints left by the
author.  Many of us believe that R/H is *surface* text only.  It is
clear as day that Ron likes Hermione.  But, Hermione's feelings are *at
best* arguable.  They are subject to varying interpretations.

> Again I'll state that it's just my opinion, but I feel that they are
> not able to read JKR's subtle clues and are automatically paring H
> with H.

I do hope that you are speaking solely about the "kid" readers and not
levelling a huge insult at the reasonably large number of adults with
advanced degrees who fall into the H/H camp.  <g>  It is the  opinion of
many H/H'ers that the R/H types are the ones who are missing the clues
left by JKR and automatically pairing Hermione off with Ron because the
surface text so clearly indicates that *he* likes *her*.  We think
they're missing the ship!  <g>

> What I'm trying to say is that Harry stinks at giving us the dirt but
> if you look closely enough, you can tell where JKR is leading us.

She's hit us over the head with the fact that Ron likes Hermione.  But,
wouldn't it be entirely too obvious (and too unlike JKR) to tread down
that path without throwing in a plot twist or two (or three ....)?  <g>

> Of course all this is all my opinion but I really tried not to be
> shippy
> about it.  <vbg>

All the above is just my opinion as well.  I don't speak for *all* my
shipmates.  And, to avoid any confusion whatsoever, this post is most
categorically not in my position as one of the Moderators of this
group.  My personal shipping views are neither sanctioned by nor agreed
to by my fellow Moderators (who are mostly non-shippers).

Penny


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