Elizabeth's long "Fanfic Tangent" (ship warning)

Rita Winston catlady at wicca.net
Sun Jan 21 19:49:27 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 10029

--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, mlleelizabeth at a... wrote:

> But it is all up to Ms. Rowlings, whom I believe is the Goddess of
> the Potterverse.  

Some people believe that God/dess created a universe with laws of 
nature, laws of virtue, and a drive to hold creatures with 
consciousness, souls, and free will, and then sits backs while the 
creatures act according to their free wills and the law of nature, 
while other people believe that God/dess constantly intervenes in a 
miraculous way. 

In our real universe, if a person falls off a tall bulding and heesh 
crashes to the ground below, that is acting according to the laws of 
nature.  If the person falls off a tall building and a stereotypical 
angel with white robes and gold wings is seen by all observers to 
swoop down, grab the person by the arm, and fly off with himer, that 
is a miraculous intervention.

The reason I went on at such length about Muggle religious ideas is 
because there is a close analogy to the author being the God/dess of 
the universe heesh created.  The author has the power to make a 
miraculous intervention and cause implausible events to occur and 
characters to act out of character.  JKR *could* make Hermione lose 
all interest in books and in knowing stuff and have her be the sweet 
little kinder-kuche-kirche woman, but all the fans would object that 
this was out of character for Hermione! 
  
> I also know that you can't make yourself undepressed or 
> non-suicidal on your own.

I suppose that a person who craves to end it all but believes that 
suicide is a sin could possible keep himerself from suiciding the 
same way that *some* dieters are able to keep themselves from eating?

> [Aside to anyone who's interested:  do the descriptions of Lily
> sound at least just a bit like  descriptions of The Morrigan to
> you?] 

No. The description of Lily is a pretty young woman with long dark 
red hair, who was Head Girl in her day, which indicates that she was 
brainy.  I have picked up an inference that she also was a very sweet 
person. I have not made a study of The Morrigan (mor-rigan: Great 
Queen), but what I've heard of the Battle Crow (such as her duel with 
Cuchulain) gave me the impression that she is a middle-aged, 
muscular, and bitter-tongued person.  I don't recall her being 
pretty, having red hair, or being brainy, any more than I recall Lily 
being muscular.

> I don't have a degree, so I can't speak authoritatively.

Degrees don't matter, just whether you have the knowledge.

> And to force him to spend the rest of his life with a bossy, 
> know-it-all, stifling person (snip) is not exactly fair to Harry! 

After his life with the Dursleighs, Harry is better suited to live 
in an unhappy marriage than most people. He can withdraw into himself 
and live with his own thoughts while his wife berates him.  As long 
as she doesn't hit him and and doesn't starve him and doesn't keep 
him locked in a cupboard so that he can't leave the house, he'll 
think he's happy by comparison to the Dursleighs.   

> Why can't Harry be independent and happy?

because he may not be able to be happy at all. (see below)

> he may have considerable difficulty in forming relationships with
> anyone, even in the future, unless he gets some really good
> therapy.  After all, the persons who should have been raising
> him were killed (snip) The persons who are raising him abuse him.

I very much agree.  I believe that this is why he has sublimated 
his hormones into just LOOKING AT Cho -- he has made it very obvious 
that he DOESN'T WANT to talk to him, let alone kiss her; he DOESN'T 
WANT to even fantasize about kissing her, let alone more than 
kissing.






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