Ginny Forever, Forever Ginny.

[Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer]

No: HPFGUIDX 10875

Hi --

Ginny Love wrote:

> I think that the spats between Hermione and Ron aren't basis for
> discounting the R/H theory. Most of their fights in GoF were based
> purely on jealousy,

:::arches eyebrow:::  Oh, really?  Bzzzzzz!  I think I'll need a judge's
ruling on that one!  You might want to see pg 539 for example.  They had
a spat about the house elves.  Then, they were later sniping at each
other so badly over their homework that Harry retreated to the owlery
because being around the two of them was so unpleasant.  I might point
out that Ron & Hermione also have a fundamental difference of opinion
about tolerance, bigotry, etc.  Hermione's called him on it twice in
GoF: first against the house elves and then against the giants.

> and I'd like to point out that in the fight post-Yule ball that Harry
> observes, Hermione yells at Ron (and I paraphrase): "Well, you know
> what this means, don't you? Next time there's a ball, ask me to go
> with you as a date, not a last resort." Heh. So much for FITD, eh? She
> *didn't* say "Oh, sod off, Ron", she told him to ask her out!

Now, now.  Don't be discounting FITD so fast there.  We've discussed
this before.  In short, I maintain that we are limited because of
Harry's POV. We don't hear what was said before he stepped into the
common room.  It might well have been what Ron said to Hermione at the
Yule Ball, "You're betraying Hogwarts and Harry by going to the Ball
with Krum!"  In which case, her response can be given a different spin.
Hasn't JKR proven time & time again that by not telling the reader the
full story, it's easy to make a mis-interpretation & be thrown
off-course?  I think this scene is *ripe* for that sort of manipulation
by the master author, JKR.  <g>  It's easy to go with the "surface
level" text in this case & make assumptions -- dangerous assumptions to
make in JKR's fiction I think.  And, even if Hermione was saying, "You
should have asked me first" -- might not that have been anger directed
at him for thinking he could just ask her at the last minute when he
failed to secure a more attractive date?  She was pretty steamed about
that issue in general as I recall.  No ... FITD is alive & well I assure
you.

> And to all of you who insist Ginny is meaningless: Might I point out
> that CoS was all about her?

She was a victim.  She wasn't exactly portrayed as a strong character
(IMO).  And, despite her centrality to the final plot twists, she didn't
have much of a speaking role overall really.

> she's available, and, hey, there really aren't that many avaliable
> witches.

Ahem.  So, Harry should be paired off with someone we hardly even know
because she's the only one besides Hermione who's available?

> As Ginny gets older, she'll start blossoming more and coming out of
> her shell.
> Harry & co. will be fifteen in the next book, and she will be
> fourteen. Just wait and watch. Maybe our little carrot top will
> surprise us.

Maybe.

Penny