What happened at Godric Hollow and the time issue

[Danika Saal]

No: HPFGUIDX 21927


>From: pigwidgeon37 at yahoo.it Reply-To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com To: 
>HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com Subject: [HPforGrownups] Who was at Godric's 
>Hollow and the time problem on the day our story starts Date: Tue, 03 Jul 
>2001 14:29:27 -0000
>
>If this has been re-discussed a zillion times already, please might 
>somebody be so kind as to point out the respective messages to me. 
>Otherwise, I'd just like to get things a bit clearer about the beginning of 
>PS:
>
>It is about 8 or 9 in the morning when Vernon Dursley goes to work without 
>noticing all the strange people, owls etc. The cat/Mc Gonagall is already 
>sitting on the stone wall where it stays till late at night (all windows 
>are dark, so it must be at least 11p.m.) when Dumbledore arrives, and 
>shortly after him Hagrid on the motorbike, carrying Harry.
>
>Which means that the Potter killing + fall of Voldemort must have happened 
>before 8 a.m. of this day.
>
>So far, so good.
>
>Hagrid, when he comes along with Harry, tells Dumbledore and McGonagall 
>that he got into the Potters' destroyed house just before the Muggles 
>arrived, snatched Harry, had a brief discussion with Sirius, took the baby 
>and went to meet Dumbledore in Privet Drive.
>
>Knowing that magic may go along with bomb-like blasts, and knowing also 
>that the Potters' house was in ruins, it can't have taken the Muggles 
>(villagers and police) much time to arrive at the crime scene.
>
>So, Hagrid must have got there within 30 minutes from the murder or, as 
>Godric's Hollow isn't a big place and police probably had to be called from 
>the next town, let's give him maximum one hour.
>
>Which leads to the logical question: Who informed Dumbledore? and how did 
>he/she do it? Owl post takes writing and some time till the owl arrives- a 
>journey that the Hogwarts Express needs 7 hours to make! If it isn't a 
>turbo-booster ultrasonic owl, 7 hours would be the least. Apparating is 
>excluded, maybe you could make it on a Nimbus 2000 within an hour?
>
>Remains the question: Who was the person that was already there or arrived 
>immediately after the tragedy and informed Dumbledore? Pettigrew? Maybe he 
>was there, as he is also supposed to be the one who took V's robes and 
>wand. But would he have had an owl with him? Parchment? Quill? Ink? MOST 
>unlikely. And why would he have informed Dumbledore when his only thought 
>probably was to run for it? I also think he would have mentioned it to 
>Harry in PoA.
>
>Anyway, there is still the schedule problem:
>
>7a.m. Potter killing 7.30a.m. Hagrid arrives 7.35a.m. Sirius arrives 
>7.40a.m. both leave 7.45a.m. police arrives
>
>11p.m. Dumbledore, McGonagall and Hagrid meet at Privet Drive
>
>So what happened in the 15 hours we know nothing about? It doesn't sound as 
>if Hagrid didn't fly *directly* to Privet Drive after taking the baby.
>
>I'm very curious to read your opinions!!
>
>Susanna (hoping that it doesn't all sound completely stupid, now it's come 
>out of her head)
>


Well, here goes.

You know how the DE's have the marks on their arms that let them know who 
You-Know-who is near by? Do you think that it is possible that witches and 
wizards that are close to one another have that same capacity? To know 
instinctively when something is wrong? That kind of psycic link to one 
another?

On another hand, going on the assumtption that Voldy was atttacking a lot of 
people, and assuming that James and Lilly were among the stronger of those 
that were fighting him, do you think it possible that Sirius, being their 
best friend, knew 'instinctively' that something was going on, and warned 
Dumbledore? Warned him that things were shaky, and he should probably do 
something ASAP?

Or maybe they had a clock, like the weasleys have? Maybe Dumbledore has one 
with all his close friends on it, so that would have told him that James and 
Lilly were dead. Hence he could have assumed straight away that Harry was in 
danger, and sent Hagrid to fetch him.

OTOH Dumbledore is a strong enough wizard to be able to feel the power of 
what happen when Harry was attacked by You-know-who and retalliated. It had 
to have been a huge thing, and we all know that it was!

As to the timetable.......... Well, the wizards couldnt really leave Harry 
on the doorstep during the day time, with  the Dursleys and their neighbours 
around. They had to wait for nightfall for cover. But who is to know  what 
Hagrid did with Harry during those hours. Maybe he took Harry as far away 
from the scene as possible, and recouperated for a while (cause we all know 
how affectionate Hagrid can be; he might have sat there cooing over Harry 
for a while). But for some reason i dont think that is feasible 
either.........

Or maybe they used this time to discuss what was to be done with Harry? *I 
think i have sussed it blokes!!!*  What if all that time was spent in deep 
discussion and action about what was to be done with the boy. It couldnt 
have been an easy decision to decide to leave this amazing child who just 
defeated an ultimately powerful dark wizard with Muggles who knew nothing 
about magic. Sirius cant have been involved as he was chasing after 
Pettigrew at the time. But a bunch of people......perhaps the 'old crowd' 
were organising the spells to put in place at Privet drive, and ways in 
which they could protect Harry through the ten years he had to wait until he 
could be safe at Hogwarts. Hagrid could have either taken Harry to these 
discussions, or been instructed to take him somwhere safe and quiet to wait 
instructions. Then they could have told him to meet them at Privet drive at 
the appropriate time, allowing for the three people present to arrive at 
different times. McGonagall to unknowingly suss out the street ( ie in PS 
"And i dont suppose youre going to tell me why here, of all 
places?..............you cant find two people who are less like us." Hagrid 
to bring Harry, and DUmbledore to oversee.


What do we think about that???

Danika Longbottom.

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