PoA Chapters 21-22 Summary (even better format)
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--- In HPforGrownups at y..., naama_gat at h... wrote a truly excellent
summary of chapters 21 and 22. Thanks, Naama!
>
> I've decided to put questions and comments within the text (in
> square brackets) and not as a list at the end.
I like this format; it is more logical and I hope future summarizers
(if that is a word) follow it.
>
[C: This gives us the story from Snape's point of view.]
Telling the same story from different points of view is quite a
recurring theme in the closing chapters of PoA.
> [Q: Had Black really meant to
> kill him then? It was a very dangerous prank, but was it
> cruelty on Black's part or thoughtlessness?]
>
I tend to think it was thoughtlessness, although I can understand
wanting to kill Snape. (What I can't understand is the people who
have the hots for him, but that's beside the point.) Sirius has been
shown to be very impulsive and has a short fuse and a furious temper;
people like that often act without really thinking of the
consequences, expecially when they are young.
> (422-424) Dumbledore tells Harry and Hermione that he
> cannot help Black. Harry faces the fact that Dumbledore is
> not omnipotent with a sinking heart. Dumbledore then gives
> them instructions, or rather clues as to what they must do:
> [Q:
> Why tell it in clues? Great for the story and suspense
> building, but was it really reasonable when so much is at
> stake? What if they hadn't understood?]
This is an excellent point. Why not just say ''Hey kids, here's what
we've gotta do: go back in time 3 hours, rescue Buckbeak, fly up to
where Sirius is imprisioned and then rescue him.'' The same question
could apply to SS/PS. Dumbledore could have just told Harry how to
get past all the puzzles and given him official permission to wander
the corridors at night, but instead to choose to give him clues in
the form of the Mirror of Erised and the invisibility cloak.
I think the difference is that by giving him clues rather than
commands, Dumbledore is allowing Harry (with help from R and H) to
act on his own and fulfill his destiny. I think it is strongly
hinted that there is some reason to believe that only Harry can
defeat Voldy (a prophecy by Trelawney -- her first prediction?), in
which case Harry has to be the one to take the initiative, rather
than just follow Dumbledore's orders.
Also, Dumbledore may not be totally clear about exactly what it is H
and H should do/have done. He sees some hints -- Buckbeak has
mysteriously disappeared, noises and grass squishing under invisible
feet, Harry is mysteriously rescued from the Dementor, and who knows
what else -- that something odd is going on. He knows Hermione has a
time-turner. He talks to Sirius. He thinks -- maybe H and H have
gone/should go back in time and rescue Buckbeak and Sirius. By
giving them clues rather than instructions, Dumbledore may be trying
to avoid interfering with the past. Rather, he is only telling them
what he thinks may have already happened.
>
> [Q: What's wrong with a
> broomstick? Why did they need Buckbeak?]
>
If Sirius gets a broomstick, then everyone knows someone must have
helped him. (Presumably, they are not dumb enough to leave him
unprotected in Flitwick's office -- there must be an ''anti-charm
Charm'' around the office so that Sirius can not just say ''Accio
nearest broomstick'') This way, it is a little more ambiguous.
Maybe Buckbeak somehow freed himself and went to Sirius' aid. Maybe
who-knows-what crawled out of the Forbidden Forest and chewed thru
the rope tying Buckbeak to the fence and whispered instructions in
Bucky's ear.
Also, Dumbledore may have felt that saving Buckbeak's life was as
important as saving Sirius. Certainly, Hagrid would have felt that
way.
> (443-4) Hermione comes rushing along. Harry explains to her
> what had just happened and she is extremely impressed: "you
> conjured up a Patronus that drove away all those Dementors!
> That's very, very advanced magic...". (443) Harry explains
> that this time he could do it because he knew he had already
> done it. [Q: Why, though? This point has always rather
> confused me. A "single, very happy memory" is not the same
> as self-confidence, is it?]
No, they are not the same, but in my experience the sudden
realization that you are capable of accomplishing something
tremendous is a pretty happy feeling. Just think about it -- all of
a sudden he knows he can do it, has done, will do it -- he has the
ability to save himself, his friends, possibly eventually even the
entire world, from evil. I would be pretty happy if this happened to
me.
> Chapter 22
> (H and H) hear Snape and
> Fudge. Snape is eager for Sirius to receive the Kiss.
> [Q: Why?? How can he hate him so much as to want him to
> receive the Kiss? Is it reasonable for a boy's grudge to be
> taken to such an extreme?]
I think any shrink would probably tell you that it is our childhood
experiences that influence our lives the longest. There are several
indications in the books that hatred of James Potter is the No. 1
driving force in Snape's hateful little life.
> Harry then remembers
> Professor Trelawney's prediction and tells it to Dumbledore,
> who seems "mildly impressed." He tells Harry that this
> "brings her total of real predictions up to two." [Q: What was
> the first?!
This, of course, is the million dollar question. We all have our
theories, but I am sure it is absolutely CRUCIAL to the overall plot
of the 7 books.
> [C: is there a book that doesn't end with
> Malfoy being foiled?]
Nope. Satisfying, isn't it? If someone is keeping score (someone
out there must be) it must be something like Malfoy 4, Potter 12.
I kind of like the way there is a big war -- with Dumbledore and
Voldy as opposing generals, and the little war -- with Potter and
Malfoy as opposing generals. It makes me think about that famous
remark (paraphrased) about how England's battles are won and lost on
the playing fields of Eton.
--Joywitch
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