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pigwidgeon37 at yahoo.it
Fri Jul 13 05:28:21 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 22472
Eric Oppen wrote:
<My impression of Barty Crouch Jr. is not so much that he's a
<sociopath as a person utterly, totally committed to a cause---in his
<case, Death-Eater-ism or whatever Voldemort calls his rationale for
<doing all sorts of nasty stuff. If you doubt that he could be so
<dedicated to such an awful thing, remember that even the most evil
<causes imaginable (insert your own most-abominated cause here; I'd
<insert mine but I fear a flamewar) have managed to get people that
<were completely, utterly, samurai-to-lord-level dedicated to making
<them real.
I agree with you that Barty jr. ceratinly is no sociopath, for me,
the key words about him were always what Sirius said when telling HRH
about the Voldemort years: (quotation from memory): "How could this
kid, born into one of the oldest and most respectable families, have
gone so badly astray?" Barty jr. IMO is simply the paradigm of the
child from a rich, well-known, powerful family, who has been given
nothing but riches, fame and power- love near to zero. The DEs are
his true "family", there he is *somebody*, not just the son who has
to continue family traditions and get as many O.W.L.s as he can, so
that Papa may be proud of him.
Admins please remind me to iron my ears if I'm trespassing now, but
don't we ask ourselves very often why on earth young people commit
themselves to religious sects where there is much more authority,
hierarchy etc. than a teenager normally accepts? In most cases it's
the desperate search for acceptance and I bet Barty jr. fits very
well into that scheme.
Prefectmarcus wrote:
<Snape cannot become a spy again, IMHO. Voldemort can always tell
<falsehoods. So unless he truly is returning, then Snape is dead as
<a doornail. If Voldemort DOES accept him, then Dumbledore would
<smell a rat since Snape would have to be sincere in his desire to
<return.
As somebody (was it you, Amy?) said, Voldemort is just using the good
old KGB-trick: Staring right into your eyes and saying: "I know
you're lying." Never fails to work if you do it impressively enough.
Furthermore, IIRC, Voldemort says so only at the beginning of GoF
when Frank Bryce lies about his wife expecting him back in the
cottage. Of course Voldemort knew that there wasn't a wife, Nagini
and Peter surely had done a thorough search of the grounds and house.
IMO, Snape is well up to that kind of psychological trap.
Dave Hardenbrook wrote:
<The other theory that I think is at least remotely possible is
<that Snape will use Polyjuice Potion to return to V disguised
<as Barty Crouch. (Assuming V hasn't gotten wind of BC
<getting the Kiss.)
Oh no, not Polyjuice Potion again!!!! That would be close to boring!
Like Rita Skeeter as unregistered animagus.
Susanna
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