Sorry, I forgot it: Barty jr., Snape as spy

Fri Jul 13 05:30:14 UTC 2001

No: HPFGUIDX 22474

 --- pigwidgeon37 at yahoo.it ha scritto: 
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Eric Oppen wrote:<BR>
<My impression of Barty Crouch Jr. is not so much
that he's a <BR>
<sociopath as a person utterly, totally committed
to a cause---in his <BR>
<case, Death-Eater-ism or whatever Voldemort calls
his rationale for <BR>
<doing all sorts of nasty stuff. If you doubt
that he could be so <BR>
<dedicated to such an awful thing, remember that
even the most evil <BR>
<causes imaginable (insert your own most-abominated
cause here; I'd <BR>
<insert mine but I fear a flamewar) have managed to
get people that <BR>
<were completely, utterly, samurai-to-lord-level
dedicated to making <BR>
<them real.<BR>
<BR>
I agree with you that Barty jr. ceratinly is no
sociopath, for me, <BR>
the key words about him were always what Sirius said
when telling HRH <BR>
about the Voldemort years: (quotation from memory):
"How could this <BR>
kid, born into one of the oldest and most respectable
families, have <BR>
gone so badly astray?" Barty jr. IMO is simply
the paradigm of the <BR>
child from a rich, well-known, powerful family, who
has been given <BR>
nothing but riches, fame and power- love near to zero.
The DEs are <BR>
his true "family", there he is *somebody*,
not just the son who has <BR>
to continue family traditions and get as many O.W.L.s
as he can, so <BR>
that Papa may be proud of him.<BR>
Admins please remind me to iron my ears if I'm
trespassing now, but <BR>
don't we ask ourselves very often why on earth young
people commit <BR>
themselves to religious sects where there is much more
authority, <BR>
hierarchy etc. than a teenager normally accepts? In
most cases it's <BR>
the desperate search for acceptance and I bet Barty
jr. fits very <BR>
well into that scheme.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Prefectmarcus wrote:<BR>
<Snape cannot become a spy again, IMHO.
Voldemort can always tell <BR>
<falsehoods. So unless he truly is returning,
then Snape is dead as <BR>
<a doornail. If Voldemort DOES accept him,
then Dumbledore would <BR>
<smell a rat since Snape would have to be sincere
in his desire to <BR>
<return.<BR>
<BR>
As somebody (was it you, Amy?) said, Voldemort is just
using the good <BR>
old KGB-trick: Staring right into your eyes and
saying: "I know <BR>
you're lying." Never fails to work if you do it
impressively enough. <BR>
Furthermore, IIRC, Voldemort says so only at the
beginning of GoF <BR>
when Frank Bryce lies about his wife expecting him
back in the <BR>
cottage. Of course Voldemort knew that there wasn't a
wife, Nagini <BR>
and Peter surely had done a thorough search of the
grounds and house. <BR>
IMO, Snape is well up to that kind of psychological
trap.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Dave Hardenbrook wrote:<BR>
<The other theory that I think is at least remotely
possible is<BR>
<that Snape will use Polyjuice Potion to return to
V disguised<BR>
<as Barty Crouch. (Assuming V hasn't gotten
wind of BC<BR>
<getting the Kiss.)<BR>
<BR>
Oh no, not Polyjuice Potion again!!!! That would be
close to boring! <BR>
Like Rita Skeeter as unregistered animagus.<BR>
<BR>
Susanna<BR>
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