Fangs for mentioning this/warning -vampire theory

[monzaba at poczta.onet.pl]

No: HPFGUIDX 22584

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., koinonia02 at y... wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Kelley" <SKTHOMPSON_1 at m...> wrote:
> I have been waiting patiently for your thoughts 
> on Snape and the vampire stuff.  There are only a few of us vampire 
> believers out here so I need all the support I can get :-)

Bet you do! For example, I do not believe it for a second. The whole 
Snape-is-a-vampire theory is based on one sentence only. In PoA, 
Lupin says in front of Snape: "Harry, Ron, come with me, I need a 
word about my vampire essay." But, the vampire essay *was* the 
homework, Harry talked about it with Neville! Can you imagine Lupin 
saying something like "C'mon, boys, I need a word about your 
homework"? I'd love to see Snape's delight on this! "Well, Lupin, are 
you actually going to *do* the homework for your chosen students?"

> >I'm thinking/theorizing that old 
> > Sevvy is curbing and/or diminishing the most conspicuous or 
> >unsavory aspects of his affliction with potions, as he did for 
> Lupin.  

Brave one! I wouldn't dare to call Snape "Sevvy" to his face!

>Also i think this is part of how he became so proficient at 
> >potions...
> 
> I do believe he is hiding what he is with potions.

Well, I believe that there are not many things that Snape isn't able 
to do with potions, but remember - potions have only temporary 
effects. Polyjuice works for only one hour, and Warewolf Bane is to 
be taken monthly - i.e., it works for one night, no more. And there 
are many possible explanations why Snape's skin is sallow - it's not 
that it must be a side effect of some Vampire-to-Human potion!

> I believe Snape has always been a vampire or at least 
> was one when he first arrived at Hogwarts.

Mmm, can't see it this way. If he was, he would be in the same shoes 
as Lupin, and he wouldn't be hating him so much, would he? Remember, 
it's Harry Potter universe we're talking about now, not the World of 
Darkness!
(BTW, if Snape *was* a WoD vampire, he'd be a Ventrue or Tremere, 
don't you think? And yes, he'd be on werevolves' throats!)

> Where did he come from and who are his parents?  I so want 
> to know. 

So do I! So do I!

> The reason I think Snape came to Hogwarts as a vampire is 
> his appearance.  I mentioned this on the snapesfans board and it 
> didn't go over very well!  Sirius mentions Snape as a 'slimy, 
oily,  
> greasy-haired kid.' Here we find out Snape has always looked as he 
> does now. I think that is a clue.  

And that's a canon statement that keeps bothering me. OK for the 
greasy hair, but "slimy" and "oily"? I'm not a native speaker (yes, I 
know you've guessed it already, reading my semi-English posts), but 
my vocabulary explains that "slimy" is "disgustingly dishonest, 
flattering, hipocritical" and "oily" means "trying to hard to win 
favour by flattery" [Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary, 1989]. 
That may describe Snape's attitude torwards Malfoy well, but in my 
opinion Snape wasn't trying hard to win Hermione's favour when he 
told her: "I can see no difference" :-)

> In Gof Fudge tells Dumbledore:  "I might not 
> have agreed with some of your decisions, but I've kept quiet.  
There 
> aren't many who'd have let you hire werewolves, or keep Hagrid...." 
I 
> can just see Snape standing there, thinking...'or hire vampires.'

Still the same thing. If he was in the same - no, better! - situation 
as Lupin, why should he hate him?

> dfrankis wrote in message 22331:
> >Ahem...!  My Theory:  Snape is a vampire (or in some other way 
> >special and well able to defend himself against werewolves).  

Well... if Snape was "well able to defend himself against werewolves" 
he would't become indebted to James Potter. What a debt it is, when 
another person helps you to do a thing you're more than capable of 
doing without inteference? And why would everybody insist that 
James's intervetion was to save Snape's live, not Lupin's?


>  GoF Ch 10:  "That woman's got it in for the Ministry of 
> Magic!" said Percy furiously.  "Last week she was saying we're 
> wasting our time quibbling about cauldron thickness, when we should 
> be stamping out vampires!  As if it wasn't specifically stated in 
> paragraph twelve of the Guidelines for the Treatment of Non-Wizard 
> Part-Humans___"

Snape's NOT a "Non-Wizard"! Filch is a non-wizard, not Severus.
Though Snape *might* be a part-human, for all we know. And we do not 
know much.

> Stamp out vampire?  Are they protected under some special law? Are 
> they only part-human?

If the Ministry was to protect vampires, neither Rita Skeeter nor 
this poor Veela-charmed boy would be talking loud about stamping them 
out.
And yes, from what Percy says, vampires are part-human.

> Let me add another statement from the book on just how well 
vampires 
> are loved.  GoF Ch 9:  "No, you're not! yelled his friend.  "You're 
a 
> dishwasher at the Leaky Cauldron...but I'm a vampire hunter, I've 
> killed about ninety so far____"
> 
> A vampire hunter? Is it a big honor to kill vampires?

Apparently. Yet another reason to believe they are not protected.

> There would be no way Snape could attend Hogwarts as a vampire 
unless 
> he was able to hide what he is.  It's the prejudice thing again.  

Hide it? From Dumbledore? C'mon, Albus would have allowed this poor, 
poor vampire boy into his school immediately! And Severus would have 
been in exactly the same situation as Remus.
 
> >I also suspect that Hagrid knows.  He's very adamant that 
> > Snape would never hurt a student, 

Another troubling santence. It seems as if Hagrid was *sure* that 
Snape is more than capable of hurting other people.

> > Does Neville subconsciously (or even consciously) know?  Or sense 
> > *something* about Snape?  (Is this why he especially fears him?  
> > Seems like there's more to it than Snape's bullying of Neville, 
but 
> > maybe not.)  


I'm all for "maybe not". Neville has every reason in the world to be 
scared of Snape. Severus has seen to that. Don't we know that Neville 
routinely breaks down in Snape's classes? Poor boy.

>  >Then again, maybe Snape gave the Lestranges, and whoever 
> > else, the info to find the Longbottoms.  

Oh c'mon, Snape left the Dark side long before the Longbottoms were 
abused! I'm prepared to believe that he knew of the preparations for 
the attack, but simply did't believe it. ("What, these idiots are 
trying to bring the Dark Lord back to power? Ridiculous! Not even 
worth *mentiong* to Dumbledore!")

> This starts a new topic.  Why does Dumbledore trust Snape?  (...) 
Whatever Snape did it would have to be something 
> huge.  

I agree. It is my strong belief that Dumbledore trusts Snape because 
he has *proven* himself to him. No words, no declarations, no 
remorse - just a solid, very solid proof.

> What I am curious about is all the references to vampires and the 
> forest.  Is that where they live in JKR's little world?  

If so, Snape-the-dungeon-inhabitant is not your typical vampire :-)
But his not a vampire. He's not, he's not, he's not!

Monika
(The Snape fan)