Is there hope for those kissed by Dementors?

jenfold at yahoo.com jenfold at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 1 15:03:16 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 19898

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Tandy, Heidi" <heidi.h.tandy.c92 at a...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doreen Rich [mailto:corn_patch_witch at y...]
> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:28 AM
> > To: HPforGrownups at y...
> > Subject: [HPforGrownups] Is there hope for those kissed by 
Dementors?
> > 
> > 
> > Real-To:  "Doreen Rich" <corn_patch_witch at y...>
> > 
> > I know that someone, at sometime, said that there was no hope for 
> > those who had been kissed by the Dementors. I have been 
wondering, 
> > though, since Voldemort had old magic that brought himself back 
from 
> > his lowly state, if he can do the same for the demented?
> > 
> > He tells of honoring the Lestranges beyond their wildest 
dreams ... 
> > well, what good would "honoring them" do, if they were still in a 
> > demented state and could not appreciate it?

 And then there's the fact Crouch Jnr turned his fathers body into a 
bone. Red herring or red flag for the bone of my father part of the 
rebirthing spell.

> 
> The Lestranges haven't been kissed, just imprisoned in Azkaban, so 
while
> they should be in worse shape, mentally, than Sirius was, unless 
they too
> are unregistered animagi (or, for all we know, they might be 
registered
> ones) they're not soulless. 
> Well, not in that way. Anyone who would torture neville's poor 
parents is
> certainly metaphorically soulless

 I agree with Tandy that the Lestranges haven't been kissed (which is 
good because I want to see more of Mrs Lestrange). But as for 
Voldemort's followers that have been kissed.
 I see being kissed by dementors as the ultimate punishment and 
therefore I'm not sure that they can be bought back. But if there is 
a spell that can do this I don't feel Voldemort would want to waste 
time and energy on bringing them back especially if the spell 
involved was as complex as the rebirthing spell. Indeed Voldemort 
sounds as though he spent years trying to obtain immortality through 
spells and potions which actually kept him semi alive and prepared 
him for for the final rebirthing spell.  
 Voldemort seems to have a quite callous attitude towards many of his 
followers, and we know from Quirrel that he doesn't help those who he 
believes have failed him.
 And then there's the logistics of getting to the kissed death 
eaters. Just think somewhere in the magic world there's a stock of 
souless bodies being kept alive by the ministry, it seems very 
pointless in a way doesn't it. 
 I discussed this with a couple of people on FF.net and we think that 
they'd have to be kept in a high security place just in case any 
disembodied souls or spirits tried to take up residence imagine if 
Voldie had gotten hold of a soul sucked body and wreaked havoc. 
However considering the wizarding world's idea of high security maybe 
it wouldn't be such a problem to get to the bodies. 

 Jen 





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