Durmstrang loction - Igor and Lucius
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hamster8 at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 7 11:31:34 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 20353
Wow ... I actually have stuff to say!
*Al delurks in a shower of purple sparks*
Christian Stubø -
"One could also look at this linguistically. While
Durmstrang is a name derived from German (from Sturm
und Drang, a literary movement advocating the
abandonment of sense), and seems to indicate a German
relation, both Karkaroff and Viktor Krum are Slavic.
This suggests a closer connection to Russia and
Eastern Europe than Germany, though that may be a
later development. To me, it doesn't not seem
immediately logical that Slavic students would accept
learning in German, rather than Russian, for instance,
when Slavic-speakers certainly are numerous enough to
justify one or more schools on their own "
Me -
I mentally located it in Norway, I have to say. There is some point
in GoF (I think on the Hogwarts Express where 'our gang' overhear
Draco drawling to himself) where Harry imagines throwing Draco off a
glacier, or something of that ilk. To my mind, where else in Europe
are there glaciers? Switzerland doesn't really seem right. But then
again, my knowledge of the Carpathians is very limited, and who's to
say Durmstrang might not be as far away as the Caucasus Mountains, or
even the Urals. I have to admit, I find JK's Germanic/Slavic fusion
quite confusing. Then again, perhaps I should consider that the books
are fiction, and JK probably didn't expect us to pick up on it (this =
my standard explanation for anything in HP that defies explanation,
like the missing 24 hours thingie)
Of course, Hogwarts was surrounded by very tall mountains, and JK's
descriptions certainly don't (to my mind, others may disagree) make it
sound like it is located in a part of the UK that exists to Muggles;
Scotland at a pinch, but in my experience the Highlands aren't
rugged enough to be in Hogwarts' neighbourhood. Perhaps Durmstrang is
likewise in some sort of 'magical dimension' kind of thing.
Vlatka -
"I have a question regarding the friendship between Karkaroff and
Lucius. It is not clear to me when it started exactly. If it was
during their Death Eating days, than why Igor didn't rat on him, as
well. Igor did seem pretty desperate to deliver as many names as
possible. Another possibility is that they met elsewhere (possibly at
Hogwarts, Igor does say something like "good to be back" when he
arrives there in GoF) and that Igor knew nothing about Lucius'
involvement.
Also, I think that Lucius wouldn't want to associate too much with
someone who is on Voldemort's hit list and a security risk (Not quite
slippery enough)."
Lucius did evade Azkaban, of course. Perhaps neither of them were
aware the other was a Death Eater. IIRC they wore masks most of the
time when together ... would it be *too* difficult to remain quite
anonymous?
P'raps Igor didn't grass up Lucius because they already were great
friends - Igor knew Lucius was free, and knew that if he gave the name
of a man who had managed to escape Azkaban, Lucius would come and hunt
him down *if* and when Igor was released, (which, obviously, he was).
Lucius certainly won't want to associate with Igor in future
installments (if JK keeps the characters 'in play' so to speak)
because Igor didn't Apparate immediately to Voldemort's side in the
graveyard at Little Hangleton.
Al
*medics cuff Al, and drag him screaming back to lurkdom*
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