Durmstrang loction - Igor and Lucius

hamster8 at hotmail.com hamster8 at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 7 11:31:34 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 20353

Wow ... I actually have stuff to say!
*Al delurks in a shower of purple sparks*

Christian Stubø -

"One could also look at this linguistically.  While
Durmstrang is a name derived from German (from Sturm
und Drang, a literary movement advocating the
abandonment of sense), and seems to indicate a German
relation, both Karkaroff and Viktor Krum are Slavic.
This suggests a closer connection to Russia and
Eastern Europe than Germany, though that may be a
later development.  To me, it doesn't not seem
immediately logical that Slavic students would accept
learning in German, rather than Russian, for instance,
when Slavic-speakers certainly are numerous enough to
justify one or more schools on their own ­"

Me - 

I mentally located it in Norway, I have to say.  There is some point 
in GoF (I think on the Hogwarts Express where 'our gang' overhear 
Draco drawling to himself) where Harry imagines throwing Draco off a 
glacier, or something of that ilk.  To my mind, where else in Europe 
are there glaciers?  Switzerland doesn't really seem right.  But then 
again, my knowledge of the Carpathians is very limited, and who's to 
say Durmstrang might not be as far away as the Caucasus Mountains, or 
even the Urals.  I have to admit, I find JK's Germanic/Slavic fusion 
quite confusing.  Then again, perhaps I should consider that the books 
are fiction, and JK probably didn't expect us to pick up on it (this = 
my standard explanation for anything in HP that defies explanation, 
like the missing 24 hours thingie)

Of course, Hogwarts was surrounded by very tall mountains, and JK's 
descriptions certainly don't (to my mind, others may disagree) make it 
sound like it is located in a part of the UK that exists to Muggles;  
Scotland at a pinch, but in my experience the Highlands aren't 
rugged enough to be in Hogwarts' neighbourhood.  Perhaps Durmstrang is 
likewise in some sort of 'magical dimension' kind of thing.
 
Vlatka -

"I have a question regarding the friendship between Karkaroff and 
Lucius.  It is not clear to me when it started exactly. If it was 
during their Death Eating days, than why Igor didn't rat on him, as 
well. Igor did seem pretty desperate to deliver as many names as 
possible. Another possibility is that they met elsewhere (possibly at 
Hogwarts, Igor does say something like "good to be back" when he 
arrives there in GoF) and that Igor knew nothing about Lucius' 
involvement.
 
Also, I think that Lucius wouldn't want to associate too much with 
someone who is on Voldemort's hit list and a security risk (Not quite 
slippery enough)."

Lucius did evade Azkaban, of course.  Perhaps neither of them were 
aware the other was a Death Eater.  IIRC they wore masks most of the 
time when together ... would it be *too* difficult to remain quite 
anonymous?

P'raps Igor didn't grass up Lucius because they already were great 
friends - Igor knew Lucius was free, and knew that if he gave the name 
of a man who had managed to escape Azkaban, Lucius would come and hunt 
him down *if* and when Igor was released, (which, obviously, he was).  
Lucius certainly won't want to associate with Igor in future 
installments (if JK keeps the characters 'in play' so to speak) 
because Igor didn't Apparate immediately to Voldemort's side in the 
graveyard at Little Hangleton.

Al
*medics cuff Al, and drag him screaming back to lurkdom*







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