CoS Stuff

[Barbara Purdom]

No: HPFGUIDX 21414

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., hfakhro at n... wrote:

> Really good questions! According to Dumbledore at
the end of the 
> book, Lucius sets TMR's diary on Ginny specifically
because she is 
> Arthur Weasley's daughter, and he is trying to
overturn the Muggle 
> Protection Act (I'm not sure that's the name) that
Arthur Weasley 
> had just submitted. Although you're right in saying
how on earth 
> was Lucius to know when the Weasleys would be going
to Diagon 
> Alley. 

He could have been planning to give it to her just
about anytime, and decided when he saw
the Weasleys in the bookstore that he had lucked out
and decided there and then to slip it
into Ginny's book.  Perhaps he would have had Draco or
even Dobby slip it in her
belongings if that opportunity hadn't arisen.

At least I thought that until I read:

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., wings909 at a... wrote:
> As for how Lucius planted the diary, like you,
that's another question that I've been
pondering.  [snip] My other random guess is that with
the letters Dobby took
from Harry, most likely in a letter Hermione writes,
the date of the Hogwarts trip was
mentioned.  We don't see what happens to the letters
that Dobby stole, so it could be
possible that Lucius might have had them from Dobby. 
Seems highly unlikely, but its the
only think I could think of.
> 
> Cheers,
> Paula
> Queen of H/G

Really good point, Paula!  I didnt think about the
stolen letters.  Theres a reason why
there are penalties for stealing mail.  Another
question could be, if Dobby testified against
him, could Lucius be prosecuted for mail theft?  Would
this be a crime in the wizarding
world?  (And what else could Malfoy have learned about
from the stolen letters that he
shouldnt have known?)

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., hfakhro at n... wrote:

> The question is what are Lucius' real motives? Is it
just to get 
> Arthur Weasley or is it something Harry-related? If
Lucius' 
> intention was to get Ginny and her father in
trouble, what does 
> Harry have to do with that? I suppose he reasoned
that TMR would go 
> after Harry...[snip] Do you think Lucius talked to
TMR via the 
> diary and Dobby witnessed this? 

I would in fact be very interested in knowing whether
Lucius Malfoy had used the diary. 
Even more interesting would be to know what sort of
relationship he had with Riddle and
whether, like Harry, he had been able to enter into
the diary and walk around the
Hogwarts of yesteryear.  OTOH, when Harry talks to TMR
in the Chamber of Secrets, he
identifies Ginny as the one who told him all about
Harry.  You'd think Lucius would have
told him something if he'd used the diary.  (On the
other-other hand, maybe TMR wouldn't
have told Harry this.)

> The whole Dobby thing is still a mystery to me - I
know that the 
> reason he came to warn Harry was because he is Harry
Potter and he 
> rescued house elves from something really bad by
'defeating' 
> Voldemort. 

He did?  Where did you read this?  I must have missed
it.  Also, I always got the
impression that Dobby was trying to prevent Harry from
returning to Hogwarts on orders
from Lucius Malfoy, but was pretending he was really
looking after Harry's welfare (also
part of Malfoy's plan).  

If Dobby was trying to prevent Harry from going to
really protect Harry, I think it was
because he hated the Malfoys and working for them,
pure and simple.  Frankly, what with
the enslavement and all, were house elves really any
better off after Voldemort fell than
before?

> The other thing is, and I was never able to figure
this one out - 
> why does Lucius bring Dobby with him when he comes
back to Hogwarts 
> at the end of the book? There seems to be no reason
given for this.

It just seemed to be one of those 
I'm-a-rich-guy-with-a-servant-waiting-on-me-hand-and-foot
show-off things.  Just Lucius
and his ego out for a stroll...

--Barb


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