SHIP: Where to find the H/H Mission Statement

Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer pennylin at swbell.net
Thu Mar 8 03:36:16 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 13858

Hi --

Ebony AKA AngieJ wrote:

> I did laugh out loud when I saw that it's been said that the H/Hers
> haven't stated their positions.  The most vocal H/Hers on list
> include a couple of lawyers, a journalist, an English teacher, and a
> scientist or two.

Not only that, but we've been accused of being "too vocal," "overly
vehement," and "intimidating."  How can we be all those things and still
unclear about our position(s)?  <g>

> The Potential Romantic Pairings FAQ is coming.  Until then, let me
> see what I can do to help.  :)

It's written.  It does, however, need to be updated with uh ... a "few"
message numbers from today's postings.  As soon as Lexicon Steve clears
his plate, he's supposed to start converting and uploading the FAQs that
have been written thus far.  I'm leaving the techie areas to the techie
folks, so I can't promise anyone when this might be.  I can tell you
that somewhere between 1/3 & 1/2 of the FAQs are written & largely ready
to be uploaded.  Another percentage are in some stage of completion.

> And Penny has *repeatedly* summed up the supports that most H/Hers
> seen in canon.  Repeatedly.  So repeatedly, in fact, that this was
> the source of my amusement.

Yes.  :::cough::::   I've definitely been told over and over and over
again that I'm too vocal, too vehement, etc. in my defense of H/H.  I
have posted summaries of the general H/H arguments at various points,
but I can't point you to specific message #s unfortunately.

> GoF
> 1)  First person Harry thinks of after the Scar dream is Hermione
> 2) Quidditch World Cup, during the game
> 3) The post-GoF, pre-First Task stretch of time

She means the Harry/Ron Fight in (3) if it's not clear.  Hermione chose
to spend virtually all her time with Harry from what we can tell.

> 4)  House-Elf Liberation Front chapter... sneaking to the kitchens,
> etc.
> 5)  Post-Second Task (Penny and I have already *explained* how we
> read this)
> 6)  Third Task and Hermione's reaction (Parker's interp is just how I
> see things...)
> And I'd leave it out personally, because I don't think it meant all
> that much, but...
> 7)  The Kiss

I'd add in: Krum's conversation with Harry.  I find this to be very
significant.  He clearly doesn't regard Ron as a romantic rival, but he
does see Harry as enough of a rival to confront him about it.  So, 18-yr
old Viktor Krum thinks Hermione's actions indicate a possible romantic
dalliance between her and Harry, and he confronts 14 yr old Harry on
this score.  Seems reasonably significant to me.  He doesn't cite the
Skeeter articles as the basis for his suspicions either.  He says it's
because Hermione talks about Harry all the time.  He doesn't say that
she talks about Harry and Ron all the time.  She talks about Harry all
the time.  If only Harry had said, "Well, she probably talks about Ron
alot too."  Think how the H/H position would be strengthened if Krum had
shrugged and said, "No ... just you."  :--)

Paula wrote:

> -- I'm a sucker for a happy ending.
> -- Which means I wouldn't want to see Ron die
> -- So he should end up with the girl in order to be happy, and I
> think even the H/Hers do agree that currently, R likes H.
>
Paula, you're probably too new to realize you've stepped in a virtual
land mine with that last comment.  That's the "consolation prize"
argument, which the H/H types hate with a passion.  That is: Harry has
everything (fame, wealth) so Ron should "get the girl."  We maintain
that Hermione is not some prize to be won, and Ron must earn her
affection & love if he's to have her.  :--)

Penny



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