[HPforGrownups] Vernon knowing Dumbledore ... secrets

Wed Mar 21 22:44:19 UTC 2001

No: HPFGUIDX 14895

Woah!  Doreen!  Did you go to my high school?  I grew up with people who would read into books like that --I always wondered at that ability, as I'm not usually a "reader-into".
anyway...
**Who would be the secret keeper in Harry's case? Gee, wouldn't be great if it were Sirius, who missed his chance to keep Harry's parents safe by passing the job to Pettigrew? He is, after all, Harry's godfather. I think this makes sense. Do you?** 

Well, that would imply there was an earlier secret-keeper.  Remember, when Harry was being taken to the Dursleys as a little tot, Sirius was on the lam and ended up getting dragged off to Azkaban.  So he couldn't have been the secret keeper at that point.  So who was the first one?

**For whatever the reason is that Voldemort wanted Harry as a baby... and now wants him dead, he could not even begin to harm Harry until he was 11 because he did not know where he was being kept.**

Not to mention he was a slug in Romania... <g>  too bad he couldn't stay that way.  
Ooh...amusing thought.  Anyone else remember the little kid from the campsite at the Quidditch World Cup?  Kevin, the one who wasn't supposed to touch Daddy's wand?  "You bust slug!  You bust slug!" 
teehee...just had to share that, it  popped  into my head just now.  Anyways...

**Stepping off on a long branch here, what if the Dursleys were involved? **

Wow, you are willing to look for the good in everyone! <g>  I tend not to agree with that, just 'cause I greatly dislike the Dursleys, but were it to be true, I think it would definately be an interesting twist...we need to start sending these ideas to JKR.

Abbie, who still loves little Kevin after her nth reading of GoF
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Doreen 
  To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, 21 March, 2001 5:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [HPforGrownups] Vernon knowing Dumbledore ... secrets

  Not sure who said this:
  Vernon and Petunia hate magic because it's different and weird and
  wouldn't fit into their neighbourhood.

  @  @  @  @  @  @  @  @  @  @  @  @  @  @  @  @  @ 
  (little Dudley pigtails)

  What a perfect place to hide a wizard baby until he is old enough to take wizarding lessons! 
  Arrives there via Hagrid, overseen by none other than Dumbledore & McGonagall.

  The only other person who knows about this "secret" is Sirius Black. 
  I am not all that clear on how a secret place works ... but it is my understanding that if the secret were placed with one person, then this person could keep the "secret" of where the hidden person is from the enemy. 

  Who would be the secret keeper in Harry's case? Gee, wouldn't be great if it were Sirius, who missed his chance to keep Harry's parents safe by passing the job to Pettigrew? He is, after all, Harry's godfather. I think this makes sense. Do you?

  For whatever the reason is that Voldemort wanted Harry as a baby... and now wants him dead, he could not even begin to harm Harry until he was 11 because he did not know where he was being kept. 

  Even the MOM did not step in until AFTER Harry started school. So, I think the secret was kept from them too. Why? Because of who might be on Voldemorts side or spying for him and who might kill Harry off to gain favor with Voldemort, just as Barty Jr. tried  but failed.

  Even now, that Harry is at school, who all knows where he lives? Owl posts don't count, because Harry can send owl posts to Sirius without knowing where they go.

  I know the Weasleys know where Harry lives. He probably told them. They are surely not going to tell anyone like Malfoy Harry's address. I don't think Dumbledore or McGonagall would leave it on any form or books for a V spy to see. 

  I think this "secret" is the Dursleys' house and it is one of the barriers that Dumbledore spoke of in GoF. How better guarded from witches and wizzards could a place be than the last place one would suspect? 

  By the same token that Petunia did not speak about Lily, perhaps Lily did not speak about Petunia & Vernon. One would have to be pretty close to Lily to know about Petunia & Vernon's existence. If I were looking for a most important wizard baby of James & Lily Potter's stature, I would be combing the wizard world ... and who knows how long that would take? Lily was a witch. Why would anyone think to look among the Muggles? Perhaps they did look among the Muggles. Even most of the Muggles were unaware of the child who slept in the closet, under the steps, even those closest to the Dursleys. 

  Stepping off on a long branch here, what if the Dursleys were involved? Could that explain why Petunia is always craning her neck to watch the law-abiding neighbors? Could that be why they don't take Harry anywhere? For his own safety? Could that be why Harry wears cast-off Dudley clothes? To not cause suspicion about purchasing clothing for a child who is not Dudley's size? 
  Didn't Petunia leave his bangs/fringes (to cover his scar) when she all but shaved the rest of his head?
  They never leave Harry with anyone BUT Mrs. Figg. When they can't get Mrs. Figg, they opt to take him with them. And leaving him in the car is worse than keeping him in sight. Maybe they know Dumbledore very well and they know better than to lose Harry by neglect. 

  Now I think I know why lawyers and detectives get paid so much. 
  Doreen 
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