Gender balance/strong women
joym999 at aol.com
joym999 at aol.com
Tue Mar 27 04:47:59 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 15256
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer <pennylin at s...>
wrote:
> > Susan wrote: I agree with Amy that people "see" two strong female
characters and
> > > that equals ten. We are so used to (this is a generalization of
> > > course) women blending into the woodwork, being quiet, or not
taking
> > > up space, that when women are as vocal as men, they are
perceived as
> > > loud. A man and a woman can speak in the same tone and be
direct in
> > > their comments. The man will elicit no particular reaction;
people
> > > will notice (and usually not positively) the woman.
Argumentative
> > > women will be characterized as a (word rhymes with snitch);
> > > argumentative men will be seen as engaging in fun debate.
> > >
> >
> > Kimberly responded: Now see, when I read something like this, I
can't help but ask - By
> > whom would the women be regarded this way
> Actually, I definitely 100% whole-heartedly agree with Susan. I
base
> that observation on the legal profession. Female lawyers who take a
> strong stand or are assertive or ambitious are almost invariably
> labelled as "snitches" to use Susan's polite jargon. Male lawyers
> displaying the *exact* same behavior are doing their job,
successful,
> hard-hitting but efficacious
I am with Penny and Susan on this one. I grew up in New York City,
where there was a well-known female politician who was in Congress,
ran for mayor, etc. named Bella Abzug. Bella wore big hats and had
a loud mouth. The newspapers never tired of telling us what a big
mouth she had, calling her obnoxious, arrogant, and assorted other
names. However, pretty much all NYC politicians are obnoxious loud-
mouths. (Its hard to survive in NYC otherwise.) But there is no
question she was treated differently by the press and much of the
public because she was a woman who joined the all-boys club and had
the nerve to act like one of them.
I will stop here before I get totally OT, resulting in one of those
polite-yet-firm admonishments from the Moderators.
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