Harry as Seer? and Ron's school work
Simon
simon at hp.inbox.as
Wed May 9 15:44:24 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 18449
Steve: <<<Harry's dreams fall into two categories. He has clairvoyant dreams,
when he sees things that are happening far away. His dream of Frank's ...are
there any other "prescient" dreams of Harry's you can name?>>>
meboriqua at a... wrote: <<<Sure - in PoA he dreams about chasing after something
bright and white that he can't quite catch up to. Now, I just looked through
the book and can't find it, but this dream was before Harry was able to conjure
his patronus of Prongs. Does anyone else remember that dream?>>>
Catherine: <<<I've found the passage I think that you mean - but it doesn't seem
conclusive of clairvoyancy, either way:>>>
PoA chapter 13:<<<"He had a very strange dream. He was walking through a
forest, his Firebolt over his shoulder, following something silvery white., It
was winding its way through the trees ahead, and he could only catch glimpses of
it between the leaves. Anxious to catch up with it, he sped up, but as he moved
faster, so did his quarry. Harry broke into a run and ahead, he heard hooves
gathering speed. Now he was running flat out, and ahead he could hear
galloping. Then he turned into a clearing and - " (Then he is awoken by Ron
screaming, as Sirius is ripping to shreds his bedcovers.)>>>
Catherine: <<<I am not sure what this is supposed to convey, but to me, it seems
that the dream is telling Harry that the patronus exists inside him - he just
needs to be strong enough to harness it. Any thoughts?>>>
Also it is conveying the idea that his father is a part of him. The Patronus
represents James, as Prongs, and so it also Harry trying to find out more about
his father and, ultimately leading to the quote from Dumbledore in chapter 22:
'So you did see you father last night, Harry ... you found him inside yourself.'
Jo: <<<simon..
I have always gotten the impression ron had troble with school... anyone can you
sopport this idea, or maybe counter it???
Cheers, Jo>>>
It would have been helpful if you had quoted part of my original message with
this so I had some idea as to what I had claimed in my previous message. Also I
would appreciate it if you spelt my name with a capital S.
Anyway the relevant part of my original message (number 17387) was: <<<He
[Draco] is definitely fairly able, but I see no evidence to place him any higher
than Harry and Ron. In fact I would go as far as to say that all three are
similarly academically gifted.>>>
Well yes I can support my view but unfortunately not give an exact quote, as my
copy of PS is on loan to a friend. Near the end of PS (SS for some) there is a
comment about exam results. This comment is something along the lines of, but as
I said before my copy of PS is elsewhere: "With all the excitement they had
forgotten that they were still to receive exam results. Hermione was top of the
year, Harry and Ron had achieved good grades ..." The rest of the quote goes on
about how Neville had passed with a good Herbology mark making up for a poor
Potions one and that even though Crabbe was as thick as two short planks he had
still managed to pass and so showing that you could not get everything you
wished for.
If my memory has been hideously ruined by revision (it has been a fairly bad day
and I seem to have zero attention span at the moment) then I am sure someone
will correct me, or possibly someone will give the exact quote anyway, but I am
fairly sure that though Ron is not top of the class he still does fairly well.
Simon
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