ChronoHarry and ChronoHermione [was Lupin's observations]

[Indigo]

No: HPFGUIDX 19200

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., jenfold at y... wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., rja.carnegie at e... wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at y..., Barbara Purdom <blpurdom at y...> wrote:
> The problem I'm having is that the
> > > time-traveling Harry and Hermione are lurking right
> > > outside Hagrid's listening to their non-time-traveling
> > > selves coming and going.  The TT Harry and Hermione
> > > should have been seen by Lupin on the map.  Lupin goes
> > > out of his way to do quite a sales job on the map,
> > > talking about how infallible it is, how it's not
> > > fooled by invisibility cloaks or Animagi in their
> > > animal form (and we find out in GoF, it's also not
> > > fooled by Polyjuice Potion--Moody/Crouch).  Am I
> > > crazy?  Shouldn't Lupin have seen an extra Harry and
> > > an extra Hermione on the map because of their time
> > > traveling?
> > 
> > That's the problem - but I think the map was made by the students,
> > much more effort went into the very fancy presentation than into 
the
> > design, and I think its design doesn't allow for one person to be
> > shown in more than one place.  It's connected to everyone in the
> > school through a set of wizard photographs, or something.  But 
when
> > Harry and Hermione use the Time-Turner to double back, they don't
> > double up in their photographs as well.
> > 
>  Perhaps or perhaps Lupin just stopped looking for them one he'd 
seen 
> one set on the map. After all he'd only be expecting one version of 
> H/H/R to exist and once he'd found them there would be little point 
> to continue scanning the map if he wanted to go and get them back 
> into the castle quickly.
> 
>  Jen

My concept of this is that the Marauders put all the foiling into the 
Marauders Map they possibly could -- but the Time Turner is a rare 
and closely guarded item, so it's not something they could've planned 
for.


Special permission from the MOM had to be obtained so that Hermione 
could use hers.  Dumbledore himself wasn't simply enough to allow her 
to possess one.

So I imagine the Marauders had heard of one but never got close 
enough opportunity to study one to incorporate a foil for it into the 
map.

That, I believe, is why ChronoHarry and ChronoHermione don't appear 
twice on the map.

Indigo