ChronoHarry and ChronoHermione [was Lupin's observations]

[foxmoth at qnet.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 19201

	Lots of interesting observations...but you know, Lupin could have 
seen the time travellers, in which case it's no wonder he thought the 
map was malfunctioning! He might also known about the time turner. It 
could hardly have been secret from the staff, assuming they  had access 
to Hermione's schedule and why wouldn't they? 
	Suppose all the staff knew about it...that would give Dumbledore's 
remark to Snape "Unless you are suggesting that Harry and Hermione are 
able to be in two places at once" a certain added piquancy. Dumbledore 
is almost daring Snape to spill the beans. And Snape looks between 
Fudge and Dumbledore, no doubt making up his mind, decides that his 
loyalty is still to Dumbledore regardless, and shuts up.
 	Also in regard to the Marauder's Map, you know we are talking 
about a group of four teenage boys...not the best spellers as a 
rule...maybe they meant Marauders' and got it wrong ;)
Pippin

-- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Indigo" <indigo at i...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., jenfold at y... wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at y..., rja.carnegie at e... wrote:
> > > --- In HPforGrownups at y..., Barbara Purdom <blpurdom at y...> wrote:
> > The problem I'm having is that the
> > > > time-traveling Harry and Hermione are lurking right
> > > > outside Hagrid's listening to their non-time-traveling
> > > > selves coming and going.  The TT Harry and Hermione
> > > > should have been seen by Lupin on the map.  Lupin goes
> > > > out of his way to do quite a sales job on the map,
> > > > talking about how infallible it is, how it's not
> > > > fooled by invisibility cloaks or Animagi in their
> > > > animal form (and we find out in GoF, it's also not
> > > > fooled by Polyjuice Potion--Moody/Crouch).  Am I
> > > > crazy?  Shouldn't Lupin have seen an extra Harry and
> > > > an extra Hermione on the map because of their time
> > > > traveling?
> > > 
> > > That's the problem - but I think the map was made by the students,
> > > much more effort went into the very fancy presentation than into 
> the
> > > design, and I think its design doesn't allow for one person to be
> > > shown in more than one place.  It's connected to everyone in the
> > > school through a set of wizard photographs, or something.  But 
> when
> > > Harry and Hermione use the Time-Turner to double back, they don't
> > > double up in their photographs as well.
> > > 
> >  Perhaps or perhaps Lupin just stopped looking for them one he'd 
> seen 
> > one set on the map. After all he'd only be expecting one version of 
> > H/H/R to exist and once he'd found them there would be little point 
> > to continue scanning the map if he wanted to go and get them back 
> > into the castle quickly.
> > 
> >  Jen
> 
> My concept of this is that the Marauders put all the foiling into the 
> Marauders Map they possibly could -- but the Time Turner is a rare 
> and closely guarded item, so it's not something they could've planned 
> for.
> 
> 
> Special permission from the MOM had to be obtained so that Hermione 
> could use hers.  Dumbledore himself wasn't simply enough to allow her 
> to possess one.
> 
> So I imagine the Marauders had heard of one but never got close 
> enough opportunity to study one to incorporate a foil for it into the 
> map.
> 
> That, I believe, is why ChronoHarry and ChronoHermione don't appear 
> twice on the map.
> 
> Indigo