Fudge - Lockhart - Florences, Slugs - Why Harry Lived - Where Dumbledore Studied
Amy Z
aiz24 at hotmail.com
Fri May 25 16:07:56 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 19477
Pippin wrote:
>It seems to me from this conversation and one Harry has earlier with
>Ron and Hermione about Dumbledore's being called away, that it was a
>ruse to get Dumbledore *out of the way*. Hmm, now I suspect Fudge
>even more.
Like others, I figured Quirrell sent it (Harry immediately suspects
Snape), but you're right, this may be another red flag. Something is
rotten in the Ministry of Magic . . . ? (Besides Avery and Macnair?)
I'd prefer it if Fudge turned out to be the willfully-blind kind of
evil, not the actively-on-Voldemort's-side kind of evil, though. The
former is legion in the real world and causes way more damage, IMO--I
liked that JKR was starting to explore it at the end of GF.
And along those lines, Susan makes the brilliant observation:
>Lockhart, IMO is interesting and important because he is completely,
>unmitigatedly and irredeemably evil (oh yes he is. Just read that
scene in
>the lair of the Basilisk. He's a professional brainwasher and he is
quite
>happy to leave an 11 year old kid to a horrible death if it will sell
him
>more books) and *still *nothing to do with Voldemort. Which is
where
>Rowling scores massively over her predecessors, tolkein and all.
As for the last bit, though, I agree with Robert. Tolkien has plenty
of characters who do evil without the direct influence of Sauron:
Boromir, Saruman, Grima Wormtongue--they are all under the sway of
their own ambitions and failings. It isn't just the pull of the Ring
that makes them go wrong.
Two little things I've noticed recently:
There are =2= Florences (Florence, are you listening?): she of the
greenhouse assignation and Firenze, the centaur (Firenze being the
Italian name for the city of Florence). I doubt this means anything
at all, she added hastily, not wanting to be locked in the 200%
obsessed corner of the loony bin.
In CoS 6, when Draco is joyfully picking on Harry about the "signed
photos," Ron says, "Eat slugs, Malfoy." I've noticed this before
enough to realize that it's the hex he has in mind in the next chapter
when his wand backfires. What I haven't noticed until now is that it
reverses in two ways: it curses Ron instead of Draco, =and= it makes
him vomit slugs instead of eat them. Nice touch, Jo. (As Hagrid
says, "Better out than in," so I suppose it's just as well.)
Jami wrote:
> was anyone else as disappointed as I to learn in GoF that
> the only reason baby Harry had defeated Voldemort the first
> time was due to Lily's sacrificial death? I'd always thought
> that it was Harry's kinetic wizarding powers that resulted in
> Voldy's defeat.
Well, as much as I may regret it, we still don't know for sure. GF
tells us Voldemort's opinion, but he might be wrong. (If you haven't
read GF, stop reading and skip to the next post. I mean it. Stop
now!) Because of the wand matchup, we never learn whether V can kill
him with an AK; maybe it would've worked (my guess is yes), maybe not.
We know he can touch him now, but that doesn't tell us everything we
need to know.
Amanda wrote:
>He wanted to know if there was any firm canonical evidence that
>Dumbledore himself attended Hogwarts. And I don't know that there is.
>Hmm.
Hermione's line is the only one that indicates it, IIRC. IMHO, that's
firm, but it's a judgment call.
BTW, all you folks who have piped up recently about your fave and
least fave books, go to Polls and put it in writing! (Unless you're
going to put CoS last. ::sighs:: Am I the =only= person who
doesn't?)
Catlady wrote <fantasy scene of Fleur at the Burrow>
Why wait for JKR? Write the thing yourself and post it to ff pronto!
Caius, thanks as always for the laughs. What a duo: Johnny Cash and
Severus Snape, the Men in Black... And
"Superbureaucraticmagicaladministration" had me giggling helplessly.
That one has to go in the filk Hall of Fame.
Amy Z
not normally a giggler
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