Cross-book Foreshadowing (WAS Snape and Harry's first meeting)

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No: HPFGUIDX 29112


> 
> I'm not sure where Luke ended up with his definitions - but none of 
> Rereading PS *before* reading any of the others (not something I 
> did), I guess we would realise the pain is more likely to be to do 
> with Quirrell/Voldemort, but have little idea of the significance - 
> so there is nothing misleading there that is uncovered by the end 
of 
> GOF - just something which becomes a little clearer.  If in a 
future 
> book Snape says, 'Potter, I hated you from the first, and when I 
> looked at you I activated your scar so that my Master could torture 
> you better', *that* would be the sort of thing I am after.

And we were supposed to think it was all about Quirrel...

> A better example would be Ludo Bagman.  In GOF, he acts 
suspiciously 
> almost from the first time we meet him - indeed from when we hear 
> about him, if we count his not looking for Bertha as suspicious.  I 
> fully expected to find that he was the one who had put Harry's name 
> in the goblet.  At the end of GOF, his gambling is revealed and we 
> are supposed to think that explains all his suspicious behaviour.
> 
> I would say we have cross-book (yes, better than multi-book) second-
> time foreshadowing (not sure what I think about this terminology) 
if 
> it turns out that Bagman is a DE and, e.g. that is what Rita 
Skeeter 
> was referring to in Hogsmeade, as well as why he was out of breath 
at 
> the World Cup (joining in with L Malfoy, then frightened by 
Crouch's 
> Dark Mark).  In effect we have a double deception by JKR, the first 
> part in-book and the second part going from one book to another.  
If 
> we never hear from Bagman again or he just has a neutral or comic-
> villain (like Lockhart) role then I would say that there was some 
> slightly clumsy first-time foreshadowing in GOF.

Might be - but I'd find it surprising.

> Another example might be the incident when James saved Snape's 
life.  
> We have heard that incident described three times, with it being 
cast 
> in a new light each time.  I think it highly likely that we will 
hear 
> something in a future book which will put Snape in a worse light 
and 
> Sirius in a (marginally) better one.  I'm not sure there's really 
the 
> element of double deception by JKR, though.
> 
> Hope that's clear.

By hearing Sirius' side of it, yes. Hopefully/Possibly in a Trial - 
where Sirius gets his name cleaned!

My theory: Sirius told Snape about the Whomping Willow and the 
Corridor, but not that Remus is werewolf to avoid breaking his word.
He did try to avoid telling Snape, but Snape kept pressing until he 
got what he wanted. (What if Snape had i.e. fed Veritaserum to 
Sirius? He is the expert in potions, after all) It is obvious Sirius 
told James immediately - early enough for James to resque Snape. And -
- I think that Snape got a penalty - being outside campus/in 
Forbidden Forest/unauthorised use of Veritaserum - and both James and 
Sirius got out free, as well as Lupin...