Snape & Dementors (Was: Re: In defense of Snape was: In Defense of McGonagall

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Cindy said:
>>>Hold on!  How does Fudge have any way of knowing where 
Crouch and McGonagall are located in the castle?  If Snape 
doesn't escort Fudge and dementor, they can wander for ages 
and never find the right office.  
? <<<

	Oh, I get it! You're saying  Snape had to go for Fudge in the first 
place because Fudge couldn't have found his way otherwise. I 
read it differently. Dumble sent Snape after Fudge to keep them 
both busy while he and Sirius debriefed Harry. IMO, if blame 
attaches to anyone besides Fudge, it's Dumbledore, for not 
anticipating that Fudge would want a Dementor present. If 
Dumbledore had used his head, he could have packed Crouch 
into Moody's trunk and sent Snape and McGonagall off with it 
(mobiliarca!)

Cindy: Snape says he "accompanied" Fudge into the castle.

  No, he doesn't. Snape says, "He[Fudge] insisted on 
summoning a dementor to accompany him  into the castle." The 
use of the word *insisted* implies that Snape had no choice but 
to acquiesce, particularly if  he had already told Fudge that 
Crouch was in Moody's office. Fudge is familiar with Hogwarts; 
he most likely studied there himself and he comes visiting often. 
There's no reason to assume he wouldn't know where Moody's 
office is. In fact, Rowling tells us  that Moody's office is the same 
one Lupin and Lockhart used. It's probably been the DADA office 
since Voldie was a pup.

Cindy said:
>> So that's why I think that Snape, if he were using 
his head and if he had any respect at all for observing 
Dumbledore's wishes, would have simply said, "I can take you, 
Minister, but I can't do it if you are bringing a dementor.  I'll go 
fetch Dumbledore (or call him on that magical communication 
device you have there) and I'll let you two sort this out."<<

And Fudge says, "No,Snape. I'm afraid I must insist. A crime has 
been committed. This is now a matter for the Ministry of Magic. 
I'm taking personal charge of the situation *in the name of the 
law* and I intend to bring protection with me. You can come 
along if you like, otherwise  stand out of the way, there's a good 
chap. You don't want to be obstructing justice."  
    

Cindy wrote:
>> several of the things were things that Lupin 
believed he had already handled.  <snip arguments>
But Snape!  When he disrespects Dumbledore, he is way out of 
line and he does things that can't be fixed. <<

If Sirius, or Lupin in wolf-form, had killed Harry, could that be 
fixed? But I understand: if Lupin acts independently, he's 
showing initiative. If Snape does it, he's out of line. Oh-kay. <g>

Cindy wrote:  
>>The worst is getting Lupin fired. <<

  I agree. But Snape atones for that, partially, by baring his Dark 
Mark to support Dumbledore. We know from Sirius "I can't see 
Dumbledore letting him teach at Hogwarts if he'd ever worked for 
Voldemort" that the parents aren't going to be thrilled when that 
gets out. 

Cindy wrote:
 >> NTD that Lupin was on his way to the Shrieking Shack.<<
			
  Lupin has as much right to prowl the grounds at night as Snape 
does. There was nothing to tell until Snape discovered Sirius 
was there too. At that point, he had to intervene to rescue Harry. 
There was no time to get help.

Cindy wrote:
>>  NTD that someone is stealing potion ingredients and that 
Moody is searching his office.<<

Is there evidence of this? The problem for Dumbledore is that 
Snape is *always* accusing Harry and the DADA teachers. It's 
like the boy who cried wolf.

Cindy (ready to believe that Snape is half-dementor, which would 
explain quite a lot)

LoL!
Pippin, not wanting to think about how one engenders a 
half-Dementor. And who feels sorry for Lupin but thinks he got off 
lucky. Suppose he'd stayed on the job and spent three terms in a 
trunk?