Dementors and Harry
pmkgenesis at msn.com
pmkgenesis at msn.com
Tue Oct 2 18:03:15 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 27020
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., cynthiaanncoe at h... wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., dfrankiswork at n... wrote:
> >
> > In POA, are the Dementors targeting Harry right from the first
> encounter on the train?
> >
> > <snip>
>
> > -By the lake, it's him they try to kiss. In the time turner
> version of this incident, Harry sees only one Dementor bend over -
so
> it really is only him.
> >
> > Some explanation is suggested in the text: the excitement of the
> Quidditch match attracts them (Lupin), and at that time, that
> excitement is centred on Harry. But that's just Lupin's
explanation -
> he could be wrong, or partly wrong.
> >
> > Suppose it's true. Then I think there are three explanations
> possible.
> >
> > 1) Harry is an especially juicy morsel, perhaps because they
sense
> Lily's love on him.
> > 2) They (possibly secretly) supported Voldemort in the past and
> they are still angry because of Harry's role in his downfall.
> > 3) They are in contact with Voldemort already, and are attacking
> Harry as part of his plot - if so, it's lucky for Voldemort that
they
> failed as it would have made rebirthing less special (he would have
> had to use just any old enemy).
> >
> > We know so little about how the Dementors actually communicate,
or
> their relationship with the MOM, making it difficult to know what
> they are *supposed* to be doing, from MOM point of view.
> >
>
> I also find Lupin's explanations of why the dementors seem to be
> giving Harry a hard time to be a little unconvincing. Add in
> Dumbledore's statement to Fudge that the dementors can't be trusted
> to guard Voldemort's most dangerous supporters, and Dumbledore's
> general dislike of Dementors, and I think they have it in for Harry.
>
> Going forward, though, I have trouble imagining how JKR is going to
> continue to have dementors present a threat to Harry, as he can
ward
> off huge numbers of them with a single Patronis. I suppose they
will
> have to suck souls out of minor characters for the remainder of the
> books.
>
> Also, had the dementors succeeded in kissing Harry in PoA, that
> wouldn't necessarily kill the re-birthing party. Voldemort could
> still use Harry's blood, because Harry would still be alive.
>
> Cindy (wondering how the dementors designated a representative for
> the honor and immense pleasure of kissing Harry)
This is a possiblilty. As far as the dementors in PoA go, i believe
JKR into'd them to in Gof's chapter "Flesh, Blood, and Bone"
But, this may be more prevelant in OoP, too.
Personally, I think there's unfinisehed business with the dememtors
regarding HP due to his parents' past. Lupin's explanations may not
jive with you because if he told HP too much, he'd have to explain a
lot more than he was willing or able to divulge. (in the case of
Black being and still is, a fugitive ...)
Anyway, hope this helps.
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