Different POVs

caliburncy at yahoo.com caliburncy at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 7 04:32:07 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 27258

After I just posted that rambling nonsense, with a sigh of relief that 
it was done and I could now go to bed, I chose to briefly skim it once 
more first.  And though I was only paying about 20% attention, I of 
course already found something to argue with myself about over.

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., caliburncy at y... wrote:
> Notice that this is not a full explanation so much as an effective 
> transition.  Harry did NOT dream the entire events of the first 
> chapter (i.e. the bar sequence) and he did NOT dream anything from 
> Frank Bryce's perspective.  He dreamt the latter events as a third 
> party, disembodied observer.  We know this because he could see 
> Frank Bryce.

Bravo, Luke, but the L.O.O.N. in you must protest . . . with . . . you 
. . . Gee, that sounds kind of mentally imblanced, doesn't it.

Anyway, you could make a pretty solid case that:

1) Just because Harry doesn't remember the bar scene after he awoke 
doesn't mean he didn't dream it too, technically speaking.  Though it 
is rather unlikely that he dreamt the preceding exposition in classic 
voice-over fashion.

2) The fact that he could see Frank Bryce *would* be in keeping with 
the third person narrator.  More important is the fact that we have no 
evidence that he was "in Frank Bryce's head" in the way that we are, 
being privy to his thoughts.  But again, the lack of evidence is 
technically not evidence to the contrary.

Which is not to say my initial statement was necessarily wrong in 
conclusion (it really probably is more for the sake of transition than 
explanation), just untenable in proof.

Good night.

-Luke





More information about the HPforGrownups archive