[HPforGrownups] Re: Snape's and Black's grudges (was: Living with Sirius)

SALeathem at aol.com SALeathem at aol.com
Sun Oct 28 19:56:11 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 28343

Cindy wrote:
<< "I've just been to your office, Lupin.  You forgot to take your 
 potion tonight, so I took a gobletful along.  And very lucky I 
 did . . . lucky for me, I mean.  Lying on your desk was a certain 
 map.  One glance at it told me all I needed to know.  I saw you 
 running along this passageway and out of sight."
 
 Now that I look at Snape's statement again, it seems a little 
 strange, doesn't it?  Snape's statement that Lupin went out of sight 
 suggests the Map doesn't display the path all the way to the 
 Shrieking Shack.  <snip> >> 

Harry notices this the first time he looks at the map as well. He sees that 
at least one of the tunnels goes off to one side of the map and he can't tell 
exactly where it ends up, neither could Fred & George, and they'd never used 
that one, because the whomping willow was planted over the entrance. But they 
all noted that it looked like it ended up in Hogsmeade somewhere. If F&G had 
seen that the path ended in the Shrieking Shack, surely being the mischievous 
(sp?) boys they are, they'd have been trying to find a way into it. Either by 
the shack or by the whomping willow. 

<< <snip> So what is going on here, and why does Snape follow Lupin?  Is 
Snape 
 behaving the same way he did years ago, snooping around after Lupin, 
 hoping to catch him doing something untrustworthy?  >>

At some point during PoA Snape says to Dumbledore that he expressed 
reservations when Dumbledore appointed Lupin as DADA proffessor, because 
Lupin used to be friends with Black. I would guess that Snape was in a way 
behaving the same way (as he did when he was younger), because he suspected 
Lupin of helping Black into the school, and seeing Lupin rush off to the 
shack, and knowing that Black knows about the shack, and how to work the 
whomping willow, he'll think he's been proved right. And takes his chance to 
catch them in the act. Snape suspected Black was in the shack, and Lupin was 
running to see him for some reason.

<< Well, Snape did 
 take the Invisibility Cloak with him, so he certainly had the 
 intention of "snooping" or observing Lupin while Lupin doesn't know 
 Snape is watching. >>

He must have found that at the entrance, cos I don't think we've been told 
that Snape has one too, which would have told him that Harry was there 
already. I would guess that finding the cloak made him think that Black had 
somehow caught Harry (at least) and Lupin was off to help him escape with 
Harry. But doesn't he also say at some point that he thought HRH had gone off 
to capture Black singlehandedly?  

 << 
 Does anyone have a theory about what exactly Snape is thinking here? >>

That all of his christmasses (sp?) and birthdays and promotion chances have 
come at once. :o) I think he's rubbing his hands together with glee as he 
rushes off to the shack expecting to find at least Black & Lupin consipiring, 
but possibly also a captured terrified Harry, and therefore prove to 
Dumbledore that he's been right all along about Lupin, get them both put in 
Azkaban, have Harry forever in his debt, and the DADA job. Also, I think he 
was trying to prove to Dumbledore that HRH weren't to be trusted and should 
be watched all the time, not given any privaledges and never be made Head 
Boy(s)/Girl like James was. 

  << Cindy (who is still holding a mini-grudge that Snape criticized 
 Lupin's teaching methods in front of the students) >>

I still think that's all cos Snape needs to grow up. He was reverting to the 
little spurned boy who wasn't picked to play on Lupins football team. From 
memory, Lupin doesn't turn round and retaliate, but he nicely rises above 
what Snape was saying to him. (at least, I think he always rises above it) 
Black however, as Padfoot when the Map insults Snape, I would imagine if 
Black had been a teacher at the school I think they'd always be picking on 
each other and slapping each other (not in front of the students, I would 
hope, but I could imagine some kind of hand bag slappage going on in the 
staff room every now and then... quite a comical scene...), much like Harry & 
Draco, and generally acting like 6 year olds.  

Sara




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