[HPforGrownups] RE: Kiddy Lit. RE: Wizard Demographics

Tammy Z too_much_coffee_lady at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 2 22:07:15 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 25392

Well Catlady...it's not that I am "grammar snob" but
that teaching writing correctly is important.  For YOU
to write with And or But at the beginning of a
sentence to EMPHASIZE is fine as an adult - but when
writing for children some authors use it so frequently
they couldn't possibly be trying to emphazie that
much. Adults writing and children writing are two
different apples all together.
All I am saying is that JKR is a great reading model
and writing as well...as we all know otherwise this
thread wouldn't exist.

Tammy Z (not related to Amy Z):)

--- "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)"
<catlady at wicca.net> wrote:
> Tammy Z (Sister of Amy Z?) wrote:
> 
> > I tend to use literature for writing models and to
> see
> > sentences begun with "And" and "But" is sickening.
> 
> I protest! I start sentences with "And" and "But"
> deliberately on 
> purpose -- and I use redundancies like 'deliberately
> on purpose' to 
> indicate that my use of AND to begin a sentence
> resulted from long 
> DELIBERATION over the best way to make words serve
> my PURPOSE of 
> conveying a particular meaning, including the
> associated emotions. 
> In general, I feel about grammar snobs the way that
> Malfoys feel 
> about poor but obese Mudbloods.
> 
> Frantyck Werewoof wrote:
> 
> > I was wondering whether anyone anywhere has done a
> bit of 
> > calculation wrt wizard demographics
> 
> I often brood obsessively over how big the wizarding
> population of 
> the island of Britain (and associated isles) must be
> to be able to 
> have all the economy that we have seen: all the
> shops of Hogsmeade 
> and Diagon Alley, the broomstick manufacturors and
> the professional 
> Quidditch teams, etc.  In my opinion, the wizarding
> population MUST 
> be AT LEAST 15,000 to have all that division of
> labor, and 20 to 
> 25,000 seems more plausible. 
> 
> If the usual lifespan of wizards is 150 years
> (Dumbledore's current 
> age) then 15,000 divided by 150 is 100 kids born
> each year time seven 
> years at Hogwarts would be a student body of 700. As
> I believe that 
> Dumbledore's unusually powerful magic has made him
> live unusually 
> long even for a wizard, I think 100 is a more likely
> AVERAGE lifespan 
> which would give a student body of 1000, which is
> the number I had 
> decided on before JKR stated it. 
> 
> But I consider the island of Britain (and associated
> isles) to be 
> quite separate from the island of Ireland (and
> associated isles), 
> with Ireland having its own Ministry of Magic, own
> wizarding 
> school(s), and so on. The wizard folk cling to
> old-fashioned ways
> like (looking like) steam engines and sailing ships
> and an economy of 
> small independent sole proprietors and artisans, why
> would they 
> change perfectly good wizarding national borders
> just because of 
> Muggle political changes? It makes sense to me that
> their borders 
> would be based either on physical geography
> (separate islands = 
> separate island nations) or VERY OLD history.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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