Snape - missing DEs - chat

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OK, now I know what L.O.O.N is; please what is C.R.A.B.?
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For some reason I thought Vanity Fair wouldn't be out till today 
(Saturday). John Walton: your vivid descriptions nearly sent me 
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From:  lady.nymphaea at f...

>...One of the things that bothers me about the series (not 
>enough to make me quit reading, but HP is not my favorite 
>series by half) is that most of the adults behave just as childish 
>as the children; the wizarding world is a caricature of our world. 
>Great touch in a kiddie series, to make the kids think they have 
>one up on their elders, but not so good for the adult reader.
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>I don't have any idea *why* Dumbledore lets Snape behave the 
>way he does....Put it this way: Snape is an ass, but the fact that 
>Dumbledore keeps him around bothers me just as much as 
>his antisocial actions. Hopefully this will be resolved in the last 
>three books.

>Meril who really wishes she could explain herself better now


Unfortunately, an awful lot of adults *do* behave as childishly as 
children - and with far less excuse. Witness of late the sectarian 
harassment of schoolchildren in Northern Ireland - adults out 
there yelling, screaming and at least one or more tossed a 
homemade grenade. Meanwhile, in China (if the reports are to 
be believed), an 11-year-old voluntarily took the place of a six-
year-old who was being held hostage at knifepoint.
But I agree: *why* is Dumbledore is allowing this to go on? - and 
not just for 4 books but for however long Snape has been 
teaching, since there's nothing to suggest he was ever any 
better! Harry, Ron and Hermione have each other to support 
them through Snape's classes; what about some kid who 
doesn't have that, having to put up with this verbal abuse on an 
ongoing basis?

>From:  scaryfairymary at h...
>My take on it was that the one too cowardly to return was 
>Karakaroff, one who has left forever was Snape and one doing 
>Dark Lord's work was Crouch jnr. ...it does make me think...if 
>Voldemort knows that Snape has left him forever, he will see 
>that he is returning as a spy for Dumbledore and...maybe that's 
>going to be the end of Snape?? IIRC, Dumbledore watched 
>with a hint of apprehension when Snape left the room at the 
>"parting of the ways" chapter in GoF, which IMO suggests that 
>he is aware that Snape is in a lot more danger than ever before. 
>Any thoughts?
>Mary :¬)

My first take was that Snape was the one Voldemort believed `too 
cowardly to return' and the one who had left forever (`he
will be killed, of course') was Karkaroff, simply because 
Karkaroff was very obviously panicked - and in fact *has* fled at 
the end of the book - while Snape was behaving pretty much as 
usual. This would have given Snape at least some chance of 
getting back into the Inner Circle, once he has `paid' for
his  alleged cowardliness. If he is the one believed to have left 
forever, it doesn't seem to offer him much of a future. 


From:  Deeblite <deeblite at h...>

>Umm.. rather than going through all of these elaborate means 
>to get a chat going, wouldn't it be easier to just use an IRC chat 
>room?  IRC is a widely accepted chat >standard that people on 
>even really old computers, or computers running operating 
>systems other than Windows or Mac, can use, so EVERYONE 
>could be included that way, and it's a heck of a lot easier than 
>this Cheetah Chat seems to be.


Except, if I understand correctly, for us Mac users ....

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