[HPforGrownups] Snapestuff, Frog Prince, Dumbledore, and The Scar

[Jennifer Boggess Ramon]

No: HPFGUIDX 37552

At 2:23 PM +0000 4/7/02, naamagatus wrote:
>
>Naama, wondering whether you can only love Hagrid *or* Snape, but not
>both

Not in the least, as I'm quite fond of both characters.  They both 
express part of the "half-and-half-ness" that I find so fascinating 
about the series - half-DE, half good guy; half wizard, half monster. 
(Along with other half-nesses about both of them.)



At 4:34 PM +0000 4/7/02, grey_wolf_c wrote:
>OTOH, you'd
>say that someone who's learned everything the book says on potions is
>already someone who could, at some point, prove to be SERIOUS
>competition -- I doubt that those questions were easy; in fact, they
>were probably the hardest snape could think of.

I certainly hope they weren't, as I've never read the Potions book 
and I knew the answers to two out of three (and could have taken a 
pretty good guess at the first one).  The Bezoar and 
monkshood/wolfsbane questions are based on real-world herb lore.



At 5:12 PM +0000 4/7/02, pippin_999 wrote:
>On that note, one additional Frog Prince/Neville
>parallel: the Princess got her frog after dropping a ball down a
>well; the ball-shaped Neville gets his toad after dropping out of a
>window. :-)

Closer to canon: Neville gets his toad after dropping out a window, 
gets his [Remem]b[r]all from his grandmother, loses it while flying 
(re-enacting the drop without the bounce), has it stolen by Draco, 
and has it rescued (spectacularly) by Harry.  Bangy slashy SHIPpy 
stuff if ever I saw it, and reason enough for a male Neville to have 
a male libido, no?  ;)



At 8:59 PM +0000 4/7/02, catlady_de_los_angeles wrote:
>Hugo wrote:
>
>>  There has been something that keeps bothering me: when Crouch Sr.
>>  meets Harry at the grounds, he says something along the lines:
>>  "Are you his...? Dumbledore's...?" 
>
>I always had the feeling that he meant 'special project' or 'secret
>weapon' rather than 'great-grandson' or 'protege'.

For some reason, I read this as Crouch Sr. still time-slipping, and 
mistaking Harry for James - I thought he meant "ally," "friend," or 
even possibly "general".



At 10:42 PM +0000 4/7/02, finwitch wrote:
>Someone said Harry's scar was more of Lily's love rather than
>Voldemort's AK... Yes - particularly as the scar is/was the only
>thing Harry liked about his appearance when he could remember only
>the green light! But more - A blessing of protection.

 From SS 17 (US (obviously) paperback edition):

"Your mother died to save you.  If there is one thing Voldemort 
cannot understand, it is love.  He didn't realize that love as 
powerful as you mother's  for you leaves its own mark.  Not a scar, 
no visible sign . . ."  Dumbledore then goes on to say "it is in your 
very skin."

Unless Dumbedore is dissembling, which I tend to think he doesn't do, 
the scar is indeed the mark of the Avada Kedavra that failed to kill 
Harry, and not the sign of Lily's love, which is integrated into 
Harry's self without a mark.

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