Crouch Jr. [was] Crouch Sr

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No: HPFGUIDX 37611

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "talondg" <trog at w...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "charisjulia" <pollux46 at h...> wrote:
> > Eileen continues:
> >> Barty Jr. is an ungrateful b-eeeeeeeeeep. Don't care how unloving 
> >> he thought his father was. Being under Imperius curse was a heap 
> >> nicer than Azkaban, especially since he was guilty.
> 
> Add "manipulative SOB" to the list. What was that shrieking scene at 
> the sentencing, if not an attempt to emotionally stab his father, 
and 
> cast doubt upon his motivations?
> 
> That scene sets the tone for our suspicions of 
Crouch-as-politically-
> motivated. Harry (and us) come away from it convinced that Crouch 
> sent his own, innocent son to Azakaban. And then later we find out 
> that not only was Jr guilty, but Sr *knew* he was guilty. He 
> wasn't "turning his own son over to the Dementors", he was 
> instead "putting Ol' Yeller down".

What if Crouch Jr. was indeed in the wrong place at the wrong time?

It's possible that the short time he spent in Azkaban was enough to 
complete (if not begin)  his "going over to the dark side" since 
there's certainly nothing holding him back - his mother was no Lily 
Potter and his father has disowned him.  It'd be an interesting bit of 
self-fulfilling prophecy, so to speak.  Imprison the not entirely 
innocent and he transforms into what he was accused of being.  This 
could also support Voldemort as a father substitute.

Consider this: if Crouch Jr. was already a full-fledged DE when he was 
caught, wouldn't his denial of Voldemort at the trial make him less 
than Voldemort's faithful servant whose loyalty has NEVER wavered?

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