[HPforGrownups] Quidditch, Ginny's good qualities and more (inc. ships; Lupin/Snape treatment of Hermione)

[Laura Huntley]

No: HPFGUIDX 37617

rohit said:
>For me it doesn't involve "ickle Ronniekins" so much "getting 
>glory" as being provided the opportunity to shine/excel much as 
>Harry and Hermione have already been provided in spades

I think Ron needs this as well.  His jealously really alarms me.  On one hand, it's totally normal and understandable (to a point), but on the other... Jo could be setting the stage for something big.  So, as I really don't relish the idea of Evil!Ron or even UnwittinglyEvil!Ron, I hope he is given a chance to be brilliant in his own right, and SOON.

Rohit: 
 >And we've all seen how fierce a defender Ron is, for 
>his family, for Harry, and for Hermione.  
>Anyone says a bad word about any of 'em, and Ron is 
>ready to kill them.  

^_^ I love this about Ron -- his loyalty.  Which is why I was SO upset with him for his behavior in GoF.  It just seemed, in some ways, a little out of character.  Then, in some ways, it seemed totally in-character.  So what does this mean?  Is Ron slowly changing for the fiery little boy we all know and love to a green-eyed monster -- right under our noses?  *shudders* ... *really doesn't want an Evil!Ron*

Rohit:
>In fact, in the 4 books up to now, if I had to make a 
>bet based on *only the information and no speculation 
>from any hints or interpretation of that information* 
>that we've been given, I'd say the most likely 
>romantic pairings are Ron and Hermione and Harry and 
>Ginny,just because it'd be a smile-inducing ending 
>and, more importantly, those are the only >relationships between relatively major characters in 
>the books in which we've seen any romantic interest on 
>the part of at least one party towards the other (Ron 
>is definitely possessive of Hermione around Viktor, 
>and Ginny likes Harry, and there is indication that 
>Hermione returns Ron's feelings towards her to some 
>extent).  It's not what I want to happen, but it's the 
>most likely so far, it seems to be the direction 
>Rowling is directing us in

My thoughts exactly, as so much better put.

Rohit:
>But... Rowling has definitely created some ambiguity 
>on Hermione's feelings (wow, a teenaged girl who 
>doesn't know what she wants, geez, I've never run into 
one of THOSE before!), 

Oh, I know *exactly* what I want.  ^_~
Actually, I agree that there is, indeed, ambiguity -- however, I see very little interest on Herm's part for Harry.  And vice versa.  However, who knows what may happen?

<snip a bunch of junk I pretty much agree with>Rohit:
>There is, of course, one thing we've all been ignoring 
>in all of these shipping conversations--that everyone 
>could end up alone.

This is pretty much what I was expecting up until I joined the discussion (and mad rampant ship speculations) here.  I mean, some casual dating, sure.  But this is (sort of) a children's book, and it is (definitely) not a romance-oriented novel.  The plot is driven by action, humor, etc. -- not crushes and romantic angst (which is all fine by me, but seriously, how much more romantic angst do we need in literature today?).  And, of course, they could all end up dead.  *wicked grin* Oh, yes.  Mass carnage.  Definitely my cup of tea. ^_^

laura (who was only joking about the mass carnage...sort of)  


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