[HPforGrownups] Re: WW name trends (was No more alphabet, please)

Edblanning at aol.com Edblanning at aol.com
Fri Apr 12 13:32:57 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 37755

Elkins:
> The post-war, pre-Voldemort generation seems to be divided along 
> lines of heritage, or perhaps even lines of political affiliation.  
> Proud Old Families seem to prefer to stick with their old-fashioned 
> naming traditions.  So the Crouches are Bartemii, and Fudge is a 
> Cornelius.  The Malfoys are Lucius and Narcissa.  Bagman, whose 
> manner of speaking of good old *Augustus* Rookwood in his Penseive 
> appearance would seem to indicate that his family was very much 
> tied into the old boy network of the Wizarding World, is named Ludo.

An interesting conversation, this. Is Fudge of the post war generation? I 
always think he is older.
Ludo Bagman is an interesting case. He's always known as Ludo, but IIRC, in 
the penseive, his name is given as Ludovic.
Could his abbreviated name be an allusion by those who know him (or by JKR) 
to his propensity to play (when not being Ever-so Evil, of course) rather 
than take things seriously? 
Ludo is Latin for I play; Ludovic means famous warrior, according to my 
dictionary. Could be the indicating the character of one who squanders his 
ability. 

OTOH, Ludovic is derived from the Latin Ludovicus. My Latin's extremely 
rusty, but that still has the game element in it. 

Oh and just to throw in my two knuts on one or two other name things that 
have come up recently. Blaise is a boys's name, as in Blaise Pascal, the 17th 
century French mathematician/ theologian. IIRC, his (the student's) surname 
isn't particularly English sounding. Percy isn't necessarily short for 
Percival, it  can stand alone, derived from the surname. Imogen (not Imogene, 
which I have come across as an American variant) is not an untypical Muggle 
name, not in England anyway (I'm saying England because names do vary 
regionally within the UK). It certainly doesn't rank with Iphigenia, with 
which somebody coupled it the other day. 

Eloise


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