Weatherby

[Melody B.]

No: HPFGUIDX 37841

Gwen wrote:
>However, the next time Crouch mentions the name Weatherby, it's in
>conjunction with a much older memory:
>
>3. "Thank you, Weatherby, and when you have done that, I would like a
>cup of tea. My wife and son will be arriving shortly, we are attending
>a concert tonight with Mr and Mrs Fudge."
>
>Crouch's next statement is to brag about Jr.'s 12 O.W.L.'s, and though
>it's not clearly indicated, I believe it to be a continuation of the
>remembered conversation, much as his second statement is a
>continuation of the list of instructions he gave Percy. So these
>clearly refer to a time before Crouch Jr.'s imprisonment.
>
>We learn later that Crouch has been fighting the Imperius Curse at
>least since the beginning of the year, and that his confusion was
>almost certainly a side effect of the mental energy of breaking the
>curse--the effort drives him mad.
>
>This is the same struggle going on in Crouch in chapter 17, when he
>refuses Dumbledore's offers to stay the night, and calls Percy
>"Weatherby" again.
>
>I believe that "Weatherby" is actually the name of a *former*
>assistant of Crouch's, perhaps one who was a lot like Percy. I think
>it's this similarity that reminds Crouch of Weatherby when he thinks
>of Percy--and that lends to his confusion after the Curse is placed on
>him.
>

It makes sense that Weatherby would be a former employee -- I beleive that 
when I first read that bit, I assumed Crouch was getting mixed up because he 
was delerious, but what you say makes more sense.

>At first, I thought Crouch may have already had Imperius cast before
>the Quidditch World Cup. The timeline is ambiguous, although it
>strongly suggests that Voldemort did not make contact until after the
>event. However, it may be possible that he *did* arrange to Imperius
>Barty Sr. before the cup, or else decided he needed to enlist Barty
>Jr. prior to the cup, and perhaps at that time, Crouch is suffering
>from the combinative effects of Imperius and a memory charm.
>
>If that is so, then at no point in GoF do we see Crouch when he has
>not been the victim of dark spellwork. The confusion over
>Weasley/Weatherby, whether initially magically induced or not,
>however, I think clearly derives from a previous employee's name, and
>the blurring of past and present Crouch suffers under the curse.

Chapter One definitely takes place before the Quidditch Cup, unless Harry is 
having dreams of the future, but it would make more sense if the 
conversation between Voldemort and Wormtail took place after they'd seen 
Crouch Jr.

The conversation in chapter one seems to indicate that Voldemort has seen 
the younger Crouch already, but from what Barty Crouch says in chapter 35, 
Voldemort didn't come to see him until after the Quidditch cup.

Barty also says in chapter 35 that he had been fighting the Imperius Curse 
for some time, and was able to hold it off. Might this cause further strain 
on Crouch Sr.?

Melody

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