How will Battle commence?

[grey_wolf_c]

No: HPFGUIDX 38213

Felicia Rickmann wrote:
> Something occurred to me last night as I listened to the middle movt.
> of Bruckner's 9th symphony at the Royal Festival Hall, London.
> 
> If there was a "war" between the two sides let's call them -
> Voldemort's and Dumbledore's - how would this be carried out?  With
> the wizarding world somewhat backward in some areas (quills, ink
> etc.,) they are far ahead in others (portkeys, floo powder, wands) 
> how would such a conflict be waged?

Now, here's an interesting question indeed, one which I hadn't 
considered but which is the logical extension of how VWI was carried 
out.

Let's start, if you wish, with some canon ("C"), some facts ("F") and 
some deductions ("D") (mainly from my own theories).
	- There are, in fact, 3 sides to be considered: V, AD and MoM (F)
	- There was no "war". Only terrorism acts (D)
	- People lived in fear of arriving home and finding the Death 
mark, which would mean the death of a loved one (C)
	- Dumbledore et co. fought Voldemort in some way yet unknown, but 
Harry's parents were involved to the neck, and had to go into hiding. 
Were they losing? They were protecting Harry? (F)
	- Whatever the previous reason is, it has to accomodate the fact 
that Sirius was thinking of going into hiding himself (C)
	- The MoM fought the mortivores with their own weapons: Aurors 
could use the forbidden curses to anyone suspected of being a 
deatheater. (C)
	- Any number of families were hit heavily by the mortivores, and 
several examples have been explained (Crouchs, Longbottoms, Weasleys?) 
(F)

Possibility A:
Assuming that Voldemort is going to give another try to the old 
strategy (which really seems to be working OK), he's going to start 
moving around his cloacked mortivores and have them murder random 
wizards (possibly of recent muggle descent, to keep to the ideology) 
and take down aurors families when this start to fight back. The MoM 
will at the very beggining do nothing, refusing to believe the 
possibility of Voldemort's return, and then go back to the Auror 
defense with forbidden curses (if you ask me, that's even worse than 
Voldemort's deatheaters, see "In the name of the father" for something 
like it). AD side will secure as many allies as possible and go back to 
the plans they had back in 1980, which were probably just stalled, not 
forgotten, since AD has always been sure V would return (Hagrid thought 
exactly that in PS, and he believes whatever D believes).

Possibility B:
Voldemort is ready to listen to his trusted liutenants (which would 
indicate he has visited www.eviloverlord.com), especially to advice 
coming from Lucius, about keeping it low-key. They would start to take 
over the MoM by guile, misdirection and Imperius and use the Aurors 
aginst AD and co. AD would be forced to initiate a civil war which he 
couldn't win, or think up a plan I cannot even begin to fanthom. (If I 
were Voldemort, this one would be the one I'd take, but then again, I 
*have* read www.eviloverlord.com).

Possibility C: (insert your own theory. I'm hopping everyone in the 
lists thinks of one)

Non-possibility A:
What I really don't believe it will happen is an all-out war. There 
just isn't enough people to form an army, and a wizard war would be too 
destructive and alarm-raising. Even Voldemort knows they cannot reveal 
themselves to muggles, they'd be swarmed over with little or no 
difficulty (we muggles have guns. Better than AK, anytime). Except if 
some other listee comes with some idea to support the army war, I think 
it will be a terrorism war in any of it's multiple forms, with no 
actual face-to-face confrontations except at a very small scale.

> It seems that in the past conflict Voldemort governed by a reign of
> terror with many afraid to confront and fight. Now, with Harry having
> survived and shown Voldemort is not (quite) indestructible, will a
> different sort of battle be fought? Many assume it will end with
> Harry and Voldemort going one-to-one;  with some proposing Dumbledore
> will die on the way; and/or Snape coming to a sticky end or becoming
> a hero depending on whether you are of the S.I.N.G school (Snape Is
> Not Guilty) or a more vengeful version of L.O.L.L.I.P.O.P.S. (see
> Tabouliani for in depth explanations and discussions).

Note: the name is "Tabouli". Haven't the faintiest of what it means, 
though. I remember because it reminds me of a continent in a fantasy 
book.

People are still too much afraid of Voldemort. For God's (any god's) 
sake, they're afraid of saying his NAME. The fact that Harry killed him 
(as most people believe) hasn't been enough for the people to get over 
him, so, no, I don't think that Harry's victory will make any 
difference --> they're too chiken-livered.

> Will it boil down to groups of wizards fighting hand to hand (a la
> GoF in the churchyard when chasing Harry) or will it be more 
> organised and subtle?
>
> Felicia

When push comes to shove, Voldemort is no general. He takes a direct 
approach of his "job": if he needs someone killed, he sends his 
deatheaters. If he needs someone taken rid off *urgently*, he takes 
matters into his own hands (as all evil overlords do). In short,  I 
believe it will be another graveyard scene.

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf, a bit peeved at the fact that only he seems to be waiting 
until Monday to discuss elf rigths.