How will Battle commence?

grey_wolf_c greywolf1 at jazzfree.com
Fri Apr 26 22:38:07 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 38230

Pippin wrote:
> As I understand things, terrorist insurgencies aim to radicalize 
> the populace. They want to provoke those in power to take 
> drastic action, which will inevitably harm innocent people, who 
> will then join the terrorist cause. Terrorists are nihilists: they 
> may dream of victory but they don't really care, they just want to 
> bring the violence home, to quote a slogan from the radicals of my 
> youth.

Sometimes, it's not even that. I have long suspected that the 
terrorists opperating at my own country continue to kill and put bombs 
because it's the only way of having a "job". They have spent their 
entire lives scaring people into giving them money, and they're 
unskilled at everything else. Of course, it also fills their need to be 
noticed, like all egomaniacs. The fact that they're "ideals" make no 
sense, however, hasn't reached them yet.

> Voldemort got the Ministry to authorize the use of The 
> Unforgiveables. If things had gone on, I'm sure there would have 
> been pressure on the Ministry to use the Dark Arts as well. We 
> may see this in the remaining books. As far as  revealing the 
> wizarding world to Muggles, I think that is exactly what Voldemort 
> wants. He certainly doesn't seem at all concerned about 
> maintaining wizarding secrecy.  IMO, his aim is all-out 
> Muggle/Wizard war, with the hope of exterminating or enslaving 
> every Muggle on earth. Thus his quest for immortality, so that 
> wizards can survive without relying on Muggle mates.
> 
> Victory may be beyond his grasp but it may not look that way to 
> him. I have a feeling guns wouldn't be much use against 
> Dementors. Muggles can't see them, but are affected by them. 
> And how many bullets does it take to kill an armored giant? Can  
> a Parselmouth control dragons? They would be devastating 
> weapons. Dumbledore and co. will certainly try to prevent things 
> from getting that far, but will they succeed, or will the ultimate 
> victory of the Light Side entail massive memory charms? 

Note: What I am about to say is a ripp-off from Vampire The Masquerade. 
Don't bother in telling me so, I already know.

The fact is that, except maybe Dementors, the wizard world would be 
overrun in a matter of days if it was to declare war on the muggle 
world. Let's check the numbers (and in a war, numbers id the only thing 
that matters). Aproximate world wizard population: 100 million (and 
even that is exagerating). Muggle world: over 6000 million. Muggles 
have guns, missiles, flamethrowers, chemical weapons, tanks, and a very 
long etc. Wizards have "gas explosions" (Peter's explosion) and AK, 
which has to be aimed and still kills only one. A giant can be killed 
easily, with a tank (and there are many more tanks than giants). 
Dragons facing missiles, bombers and jets? I give them 10 minutes. 
Muggles are too many, and have too many weapons. The only solution is 
to have them unaware, and if Voldemort doesn't realise this, he'll be 
soon destroyed (he may be inmortal, but a granade will blast him to 
pieces he likes it or not). Only dementors would be dangerous, but, in 
a war, they would quickly run out of food. Then again, maybe not, but 
if muggles have survived to this day with them around, they can 
continue to do so.

> If Voldemort can persuade the Dementors to join him then he 
> will have a ready-made fortress/headquarters at Azkaban from 
> which to launch his attacks, invisible to Muggles and guarded 
> from Wizards as well.  How he is to be dislodged from it and 
> vanquished I have no idea, though I am pretty sure that Godric's 
> sword is going to come in handy. 
> 
> Pippin


That would be an interesting end for the books: a major amphibian 
operation against Azkaban with all the good characters in the book. A 
pity is just too film-ish.

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf






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