prejudice in the WW/Voldemort's baby form/Misuse of Muggle artiefcts/Sirius
nuriaobradors
nobradors at hotmail.com
Mon Apr 29 14:02:00 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 38288
Zoehoock replied to my post:
> Not a "classy family"? I think you're treading on dangerous ground
> here. Your implication seems to be that the Weasley's, who must be
> a "common" family, since they're not "classy", don't know any
better
> than to state prejudices that they don't even understand.
>
> I find that offensive.
>
> I would definitely assume the Malfoys are a "classy" family, and
> they're just as prejudiced, if not more so, than the Weasleys.
I'm sorry if I sounded offensive, I didn't mean to. Please cope with
my English! However, there *are* many people who assume some
generalizations because don't know any better (like, "the French
don't wash themselves" "the English are boring", jokes about Polish
or Galitians and nonsense like that). Hopefully, they'll meet some of
that people and have a chance to see if what they thought about them
is true or not.
The difference is, a truly prejudiced person, like any of the
Malfoys, will not give in to the evidence they were wrong. No matter
how tame a werewolf proves to be, they'll still want to get rid of it
(oh, no, just avoiding him is not enough! they must die, they're not
human!, they must think).
That's why I like to make a difference between "prejudice"
and "generalization", because many times "generalization" is a
product of ignorance and not of hatred. And I'm not
saying "ignorance" in a negative way - just as not knowing better on
a certain subject.
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about my post:
>I guess he might probably got her pregnant and Voldemort took
> the offspring's body. Perhaps it wasn't
> even a 9-month pregnancy, as magic and perversion are involved.
SerenaDust said:
>I don't know if Nuria is reading a translated version of GoF, but my
>UK/US versions don't mention anything about Peter *seducing* Bertha
>Jorkins.
oooops! My mistake here,(seems I wasn't having a very bright day,
huh?). You are right, the canon states nothing about proper
seduction. Call me a dirty mind, then, but I got the feeling some of
that might have happenned.<eg>
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Kitty wonders:
>It seems that the Misuse of Muggle Artifacts seems to be quite
>grey! What exactly is a Muggle Artifact? Things that use
>ekeltricity? Internal-Cumbustion engines? So why is an enchanted
>teapot a Muggle Artifact?
I guess that when it comes to objects common to both world, like the
teapot, enchanting must be used in an extremely careful way. In the
teapot case: if you magic water into it, perform a heating spell to
have the water ready for tea, the teapot itself would still be jinx-
free and could be used by any muggle in the usual muggle way. But if
you cast the spell on the teapot itself, and not provide a counter-
spell mechanism or something like that, I guess it's a misuse of
muggle artifact then.
*****
Finwitch said:
>What is it about Wormtail that Harry'll be glad he saved him? Will
>Sirius get free, will Wormtail save Harry's life, both or something
>else? I *do* hope Sirius gets free in the 5th book... And I'd like
>to see a Sirius Black vs. a Dursley scene - particularly Marge!
>Perhaps >as Sirius comes to take custody of Harry - or just comes
>for a visit.
Oh yes, yes, yes!!! That would be sooo cool!!! Specially for us
girls who have a crush on Sirius <blush> shame on me, acting like a
teen...
Cheers,
Nuri
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