Who was witness to the killing [SORRY]?
bboy_mn
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Wed Aug 7 00:50:34 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 42215
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "bboy_mn" <bboy_mn at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "tmarends" <tmarends at y...> wrote:
> > Pip wrote:
> > >
> > > My bet would be that the voice Harry heard telling Lily to
> > > run wasn't James [we do not see James die in That Which Must
> > > Not Be Mentioned, and that particular scene was specifically
> > > approved by JKR so it would fit in with as yet unrevealed
> > > plotlines] - and this is why Lupin was so surprised (PoA p.
> > > 178 UK hardback) when Harry told him he heard James. James
> > > probably died somewhere outside the house; it was Someone
> > > Else inside the house that Harry heard.
> > >
> > > Whoever the Someone Else was, they survived and were able to
> > > contact Dumbledore and tell him what happened.
> > >
> > > My current theory is 'it wuz Snape' - though the problem with
> > > this is the question of why Harry wouldn't have recognised
> > > Snape's voice. However, 'it wuz Snape' is the simplest solution
> > > to several other problems.
> > >
> >
> > Now Rim A.:
> >
> > Although an interesting theory, I have reason to doubt it was
> > Snape who could have been in the house when Lily was killed and
> > the AK on Harry backfired. Assuming it wasn't James and he died
> > elsewhere, I have a different theory on who could have been in
> > the house. Peter Petigrew. He was the secret keeper. He was in
> > cahoots with Voldemort. Harry heard "Lily, take Harry and go!
> > It's him! Go! I'll hold him off---" (POA, pg 240 US/hb) while
> > learning the patronus with the boggart. Harry assumed it was
> > his father, but it could have been anybody on Voldemort's side
> > whom the Potter's trusted. That's why I think if it wasn't
> > James' voice he heard, it must have been Peter's.
> >
> > Tim A.
[Sorry, I messed up and hit the SEND button accidently.]
If a friend of Voldemort's is speaking, then why is he telling Lily to
'...take Harry and go! .... I'll hold him off---'?
If it was Peter, then Voldemort would have seen Peter while Peter was
'holding him off'. Certainly, Voldemort would never trust Peter again.
Even if it was Snape, I'm sure Harry would recognise Snape's oil voice
or even Perigrew's squeaky voice.
You also need to explain why the friend of Voldemort wasn't killed by
Voldemort.
True, all we have is Harry's belief that the voice he hears is his
Father, but the only thing we have is Harry's belief the the other is
his Mother's. We assume the bodies of Harry's father and mother we
found at the scene, and that a logical analysis, lead to reasonable
conclusions about what happened.
bboy_mn
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