Slightly OT: Thoughts on Apparation

bboy_mn bboy_mn at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 13 02:51:52 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 42544

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "kiricat2001" <Zarleycat at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "bboy_mn" <bboy_mn at y...> wrote:

BBOY_MN Originally said:
> > 
> > Honor Among Thieves-
> > How is anything safe from theft in the magic world? You 
> > could just pop into the local jewlery store, fill your pockets,
> > and pop out. Stores and shops may have some enchantments, 
> > but I would assume that during  business hours, legitimate 
> > customers would pop in and out all the time. As far as peoples
> > homes, it would seem very easy to rob them. They may have 
> > antiapparation enchantments, but that would also stop
> > you from apparating into and out of your own home.

Marianne, queen of the deadbolts Replied:
> 
> Well, not necessarily.  Why couldn't one set up anti-apparation 
> enchantments that keep everyone out except whoever the family in 
> question wants to let in?  My enchantments can be set up to keep you 
> out, but my husband/adult children can apparate in.  And, since I 
> trust several friends with my life and my jewelry, I can set up the 
> enchantments to allow them in, too, in the same way my Muggle self 
> can hand over a key to the front door. 
> 
> And if I want to make people walk through the door into my shop and 
> not apparate into the back room and steal my stock, my anti-
> apparation devices can be set up to do that.
> 
> But, then that makes me think.  Can a powerful wizard overcome 
> whatever enchantments a weaker wizard puts on his/her house?  Or are 
> there other ways around it?  In GOF Sirius tells Harry he's broken 
> into a wizard home to use their fireplace for the 1:00 AM
> head-in-the-fireplace talk.  If, as I've always assumed (sorry I
> can't quote canon here because I simply don't remember it, if it 
> exists) one needs a wand to apparate, then Sirius had some other 
> way to break into the house.  And, if that's the case, what good 
> is an anti-apparation charm if someone can just pick your locks 
> or jimmy your window open? Or was this a trusting wizard family 
> that felt that their neighborhood was a safe one and they didn't 
> need any complicated locking/protective wards?  
> 
> Marianne, queen of the deadbolts

To Which bboy_mn replies:
Selective anti-apparation-
True there could be selective anti-appparation charms but I don't
think we've seen any examples of charms that are that selelctive. But
then we are dealing with magic, so anything is possible. 

While you don't come right out and say it, you seem to assume and
intelligent anti-apparation charm, more like a clarvoiant charm, one
that can read your mind and tell who you will and will not allow in at
any given time.

Sirius, general security, and the break-in-
It's possible that Sirius literally broke into this place the same way
you break into a muggle house.

You think you person real-life home is secure, but I'm hear to tell
you that the security of your home is as fragile as glass. With all
you steel doors, security lights/systems, etc..., anyone ANYONE can
get into your home simply by breaking a window. Think about that just
before you go to sleep tonight. Unless you have steel bars on the
windows, live above the fifth floor with no external access, or you
have bulletproof glass on the windows, the only thing that keeps
people out of your house is that most people are basically good
people. But no  amount of security stops a true thief or other evil-doer.

Picking the locks, jimmying the windows, and breaking the
doors/windows takes time and allows you to be seen and makes noise.
Apparation on the other hand is silent, unseen, and generally safe and
secure for the crook. 

Anti-apparate charms-
I'm sure people use them and other enchantments to keep their house
safe, but it seems to me to be a complex task with a lot of little
problems that have to be solved. Similar to the solutions you
suggested which are certainly not easy charms.

bboy_mn





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