Thoughts on MAGIC DISHWASHER (WAS: Wandless!Harry - A Fatal Flaw?)

[erisedstraeh2002]

No: HPFGUIDX 43115

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "grey_wolf_c" <greywolf1 at j...> wrote:
 
> Grey Wolf, who will add Phyllis' idea to MAGIC DISHWASHER, and 
> would like to know if she wants to join, since she's already 
> substantially added to it.

Now me:

My sincere thanks for the invitation, but before making such a 
monumental decision, I first reviewed the entire theory which is 
detailed in post #40044 (as you so kindly mentioned previously).  And 
I can safely say that while I agree with a lot of this theory (and 
commend those brilliant listies who came up with it), there are the 
following portions with which I respectfully disagree:

(1) I find contradictory the conclusions that <Voldemort intended for 
Harry to escape the graveyard> and that <Voldemort cannot afford to 
let Harry grow up>.  If Voldemort cannot afford to let Harry grow up, 
why would he *intentionally* allow him to escape the graveyard, which 
has been his best opportunity so far to dispose of him (IMO)?  I do 
believe that Voldemort cannot afford to let Harry grow up.  I'm sorry 
I can't attribute this to the brilliant listie who came up with it, 
but I like the theory that Voldemort knew of Professor Trelawney's 
first accurate prediction that a boy born at a certain time (perhaps 
on a night when no planets were visible in the sky for an extended 
period of time <thanks to Shaun for figuring this out :)> would be 
his downfall.

Which means I must also respectfully disagree with the <Voldemort 
intentionally rigged the Triwizard Cup portkey so it would return 
Harry to Hogwarts> conclusion.  My theory is that James' ghostly self 
(in the corrected version of GoF) rigged the Cup to return to 
Hogwarts so that Harry could escape.  Otherwise, how would James' 
ghost have known to tell Harry "you must get to the portkey, it will 
return you to Hogwarts..." (GoF, US hardback ed., p. 667)?  Harry 
wouldn't have known that the Portkey was two-way, as he's had no 
experience to date with two-way Portkeys.  James' ghost had to tell 
him and the priori incantatem which produced James' ghost was 
unplanned by Voldemort (on that, we agree!).

(2) I also respectfully disagree with the <Harry was allowed to 
escape so he could feed misinformation to Dumbledore> conclusion.  
While I agree that Voldemort and Dumbledore are waging an 
intelligence campaign, I don't believe this was part of Voldemort's 
plan.  If it was, Fake!Moody wouldn't have tried to kill Harry before 
Harry had a chance to relay the <false> information to Dumbledore.

(3) While I agree that Harry can be killed, I do not agree that he 
needs to be weakened first.  The reason Baby!Harry resisted the AK 
was due to the <love-shield> from Lily's sacrifice.  Voldemort, in 
Dumbledore's words, "has overcome that particular barrier" (GoF, p. 
696) by using Harry's blood in his regeneration potion.  I still 
maintain that the Cruciatus and Imperius curses Voldemort submitted 
Harry to in the graveyard were meant to both bolster Voldemort's ego 
as well as to prove to his DEs that he can completely control Harry 
in order to re-establish his DE power base.

(4) I also respectfully disagree with the <Lucius is loyal> 
conclusion.  Voldemort himself calls him "slippery" (GoF, p. 650).  I 
think the DE march at the Quidditch World Cup and the planting of the 
diary were both solely Lucius' ideas.  Both the DE march and the 
diary were aimed at hurting/humiliating Muggles.  In addition, one of 
the goals of the diary incident was to discredit Arthur Weasley's 
Muggle Protection Act which Lucius opposes.  IMO, while Voldemort 
does not like Muggles, I do not believe his main goal is to wipe out 
Muggles.  I believe that wiping out Muggles *is* the main goal of 
many of his DEs, especially Lucius, and Voldemort allows them to do 
this as a way of keeping them loyal to him.  I don't think that if 
Voldemort was behind Lucius' organizing of the DE march, Lucius would 
have run from the Dark Mark Fake!Moody shot into the sky.

~Phyllis
who appreciates Grey Wolf saying that she's made a <substantial 
contribution,> even if it's to a theory she doesn't completely support