Molly Weasley's Faulty Memory/Hermione's placement/Harry's tears

[grey_wolf_c]

No: HPFGUIDX 43216

Uncmark wrote:
> Help me out if this was discussed before. I was rereading GoF and 
> Molly's remebrance of her Hogwart's days (right before the third 
> task)
>
> Molly noticed the Whomping Willow and mentions it was planted after 
> her time (which would make her older then Harry's parents). She also 
> says that the Groundskeeper was Ogg. Is this different then Hagrid's 
> position of Keeper of the Keys and Grounds?
> 
> Hagrid was expelled and became groundskeeper about 50 years before 
> Harry's Time (placed at 1943 by the Harry Potter Lexicon) So who was 
> Ogg and when did Molly and Arthur attend Hogwarts? 
> 
> Uncmark

The general consessus in the list is, IIRC, that Hagrid was hired as a 
groundskeeper *under* Ogg's tutelage for a few years, until Ogg retired 
and Hagrid learned the trade. Which means that, even if Hagrid was 
there before Molly and Arthur, he wasn't the groundskeeper as such, 
only the helper to Ogg.

Melody wrote:
> The only other excuse I can think of is that: JKR has always said
> that she wrote Hermione like herself, and that if JKR was to be 
> sorted, she would want to be in Gryffindor.  So therefore, if A=B, B=
> C, then A=C, then Hermione is in Gryffindor.  Those are the only
> reasons I can come up with really.  Any other suggestions are greatly 
> welcomed by all.
> Ok, that is all.  Have a good day.  :)
> 
> Melody

I'd like just to point out that, IIRC (which I might not), JKR has said 
that she'd expect to be sorted into Ravenclaw herself. Some listees 
have pointed out that Hermione might have been placed in Gryffindor 
because Ravcenclaw has nothing to make her grow (she's already a good 
student), but I think that she was put in Gryffindor because she asked 
the hat for it (just like Draco asked for Slytherin and Ron for 
Ravenclaw.

Mike Zitzmann wrote:
> I think we can safely assume that Harry is the heir to Gryffindor.

I don't think that's a safe theory, Mike. I've argued against it 
before, and the problem with that idea is that it undermines the enire 
"we are what we choose and not what our blood dictates" idea in the 
books. Dumbledore insist heavily in the fact that what really is 
important is the choices one makes, not the blood like Voldemort and 
the DEs think. If Harry is NOT a heir to Gryffindor, OTOH, we have a 
great theme for the books: the new blood that's not the heir of 
anything defeats the old blood heir of an ancient wizard family.

You may have noticed, however, that this argument is based in 
metathinking, so it's not one of my favourites. Also, proof seems to be 
piling for the "heir of Gryffindor" theory, but I thought I should 
point out that Harry's ascendency is not so cut-and-dry as it may seem.

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf