[HPforGrownups] Fawkes; Voldemort rules!?
Jacqueline Hendries
psychchick04 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 28 02:06:18 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 43265
Phyllis wrote:
> I think the fact that JKR tells us that "very few wizards have ever
> succeeded in domesticating" the phoenix provides additional support
> for my premise that Fawkes belonged to Godric Gryffindor when he
> was alive. But then I wonder who owned Fawkes after Gryffindor died
> but before Dumbledore obtained him (the Druidess Cliodna, perhaps? :)
Then Judy said:
> Good point about few wizards domesticating the phoenix, Phyllis!
> I believe that Fawkes belonged to Godric Gryffindor; too. I
> mentioned a while back that this would make a nice parallel between
> Fawkes and Slytherin's basilisk. The victory of Harry and Fawkes
> over Tom Riddle and the basilisk would then be foreshadowing of
> Harry's eventual victory over Voldemort.
I agree with Judy about the "war of the pets" in CoS foreshadowing the
actual final battle - it's quite fitting. However, I think that this
can retain its effectiveness (I hope I'm expressing this correctly)
without Fawkes originally belonging to Godric Gryffindor - although the
paralell is less perfect if Dumbledore is the original owner, Fawkes is
still the animal that best represents Gryffindor *House*. Personally, I
think the fact that "very few wizards have succeeded in domesticating"
the phoneix only makes it *less* likely that Fawkes was Godric
Gryffindor's originally. If they're very difficult to domesticate,
they're probably also fiercely loyal to their owners, which would make
it difficult to pass them on over time. Also, I think it would be
fitting for Dumbledore, who enjoys Muggle sweets, to have cleverly
named his phoenix after a figure from Muggle history - and Guy Fawkes
was most emphatically *not* around when Godric Gryffindor was.
Of course, if Fawkes *was* passed down from good wizard to good wizard,
this could have some interesting possibilities. First of all though,
how is it decided who he goes to when one master dies? And who has he
been with between Gryffindor and Dumbledore (I like Phyllis's
suggestion that the Druidess Clidonia was an owner, although I had
thought that the Druids came before Gryffindor on the timeline).
Something interesting to think about, anyway...
~ Aloha
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