[HPforGrownups] Fawkes; Voldemort rules!?

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No: HPFGUIDX 43266

Aloha! said:
Also, I think it would be
fitting for Dumbledore, who enjoys Muggle sweets, to have cleverly
named his phoenix after a figure from Muggle history - and Guy Fawkes
was most emphatically *not* around when Godric Gryffindor was.<<<<<<<<<<

This sort of brings up the question of whether Dumbledore named him or JKR did as one of her many instances of subtle (or not-so-subtle) wordplay. 'Fawkes' as a name has been around for quite some time, basically as a Norman derivation of the Latin 'falco', at least since the 12th century, possibly before. And as JKR plays a bit loosely with circa-11th century history and etymology, who knows? I know it's a stretch, but I too like the thought of Fawkes originally belonging to Godric Gryffindor. He's associated heavily with other objects belonging to Godric, namely the sword and the Sorting Hat that he brings to Harry in CoS, which is pretty suggestive to me.

Aloha:
Of course, if Fawkes *was* passed down from good wizard to good wizard,
this could have some interesting possibilities. First of all though,
how is it decided who he goes to when one master dies? And who has he
been with between Gryffindor and Dumbledore (I like Phyllis's
suggestion that the Druidess Clidonia was an owner, although I had
thought that the Druids came before Gryffindor on the timeline).
Something interesting to think about, anyway...<<<<<<<<<<

Maybe, seeing as phoenixes are difficult to domesticate, Fawkes would choose his new owner -- meaning that there might be some years after the death of his old one before he found a replacement. So, his owner wouldn't be his 'owner', per se, more like a caretaker or even a sort of ally.

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