Mid-Air Collision Required for Priori Incantatem? (WAS: Meaning of OotP

Steve <bboy_mn@yahoo.com> bboy_mn at yahoo.com
Sat Dec 28 05:15:12 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 48893

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "erisedstraeh2002
<erisedstraeh2002 at y...>" <erisedstraeh2002 at y...> wrote:
> Steve <bboy_mn> originally wrote:
> 
> > So while they can't curse each other in this one simultaneous 
> > curse  circumstances, they can curse each other. ..edited...
> 
> Now me: (Phyllis)
> 
> Since the wand has to "meet its brother" in order for the wands 
> to "not work properly against each other," both wizards must be 
> using their wands at or about the same time.  ...edited...
> -end this part-

bboy_MN:
I agree with you again, although not completely. You are right my
choice of the word 'simultanious' might have implied a precision that
I did not intend. The curses have to occur close to each other in both
time and space. Extremely close but not really in the same
microsecond. I do believe the forces have to connect, but not
necessarily collide, but the 'beam' of one curse has to touch the
'beam' of the other curse. And of course, the on coming curse has to
miss it's intended target. In the case of Harry/Voldemort, the head on
collision prevented followed by the 'Brother Effect' prevented those
curses from going any farther. Can I prove that? No. But it seems
implied from the two incidences we have.
-end this part-


> Steve (bboy_mn) again: (originally said)
> 
> > I think the duel between Malfoy and Harry where the curses
> > collided and ricocheted off each other was the setup for this. 
> > It made us aware the this simultaneous curses was an unusual 
> > circumstance.
> > -end this part-

> 
> Now me: (Phyllis)
> 
> When Harry and Malfoy's curses collided, ... .  Both curses were 
> successful – ... eidted...  
> 
> In priori incantatem, the curses are ineffective – ...edited....  
> So I see the two simultaneous curse situations as being very 
> different from one another.
> -end this part-

bboy_mn:
Yes, definitely different. The Harry/Draco incident was merely the
setup. It implanted in our minds that curses thrown at the same time,
contacting each other in the air, produced unusually results. It made
us aware that it was possible for the curse to make contact with each
other as well as the intended target. To my knowledge, we have never
seen a curse ricochet before; not against another curse or against
another object. In this incident, the was no 'Brother Wand Effect'
because they didn't have brother wands. There was no Prior Incantaum,
because the duel ended with the curses. In the graveyard, the 'Brother
Effect' kicked in and the duel continued until Harry forced the
light-beads back into Voldemort's wand, and that's what produced the
Prior Incantatum effect. 
- end BBOY_MN -

> ...edited...
> 
> ~Phyllis


Just a few thoughts.

bboy_mn






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