[HPforGrownups] Time Travel in PoA - The Map (was: Re: Lupin is James and Time Travel)

[Angela Evans]

No: HPFGUIDX 48933


 
 "bluesqueak <pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk>" <pipdowns at etchells0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Prepare to be confused :0)
In Theory 3 there is not, and never will be, a sequence of events 
where Harry and Hermione did not go back in time. There is only one 
world. Harry 2 and Hermione 2 are always present in it.

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I have always thought of the Time Travel in POA like this, but I have no knowledge of time travel theories, so thanks for really explaining it.  But ok, this then goes back to the question recently asked, why didn't H&H2 show up on the Maurader's Map when Lupin was examining it.  It might be said that once he saw PP on the map he was so in wonder of that and observing that, that he was not looking at other people in the vicinity.  But Lupin states that he watched the Trio (sans Peter) walk down towards Hagrid's hut, and we know that H&H2 were very closely trailing the Trio, on the open lawns at night where no one else was around.  There is no WAY Lupin didn't see that.  But if the time travel does NOT create a parallel dimension, then H&H 2 SHOULD have shown up.  So here are my thoughts on this, there are three options.

1) it is a flint

2) Lupin DID see H&H2 and knew what was going on (that is that they were time traveling, Lupin as a teacher could have know about Hermione's time turner).  And then for unseen reasons never brought this up.

3) H&H 2 DID not show up because of a failure of the map.  I think we all treat this map as this unerring magical object.  Yes it is powerful, and impresses many people including Fake!Moody.  But we must remember that it was created by humans, kids in fact (though brilliant kids indeed).  Lupin says he thought the map was "malfunctioning" when he saw Peter.  Yes, this might be because anything would be more believable that Peter back from the dead, but it also shows that one of the mpas creators believes that the map could not function properly.  I think it a stretch to assume that these school kids created an all-powerful and all-knowing magical object.  Maybe the the map could not "process" the appearance of "time travelers".

 

just some thoughts

 

angela



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