[HPforGrownups] Time Only Moves Forward Theory

[alicit at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 48949

First, I completely agree with your interpretation of the Map's role in all 
of this.  H2&H2 would have been on the map, but Lupin did not necessarily 
notice them, because he was concentrating on Peter.

Second, your 'time moving on' theory is good, and is the basis theory for our 
discussions on the beginning of the "time loop"  However there are two things 
different:

A) by my (and a few other's) reasoning, the time loop is more like the loop 
in a roller coster than a never ending continuum.  Harry and Hermione move on 
one track, only it doubles back over the same period of time once (or maybe 
twice, without them knowing?)

b) where do H2&h2 come from?  They cannot merely appear, because they needed 
some way (the timeturner) to go back and become H2&H2.  If Harry was kissed 
by the dementor, he could not have gone back in time (or, not without some 
difficulty!)

So i prepose that we look at the 'time loop' in the roller coaster way.  Time 
would be the ground, it is straight, no loops.  Harry & Hermione's  
experience  is the coaster track: they generally go forward until something: 
the timeturner,  makes them turn around.  They need to access the timeturner 
(ie. the loop in the track) to be able to 'redo' a period of time.

So Harry and hermione are going along the track, forwards in time, along the 
way, they meet the dementors, who will derail Harry's car (If he is kissed, 
he won't be able to perform the patronus in any case, nor will he be able to 
go back in time).  However, *something* happens to prevent that from 
happening until Harry and Hermione can go around the loop, and experience the 
same time again.  The second loop will be what they remember, and they won't 
have a recollection of the first time around, which is why we don't know what 
the "something" that permits Harry to survive the Dementor's kiss the first 
time is.

The man across the lake is not quite cemented, because harry is the only one 
who sees him, and Harry isn't in the best state of mind to be seeing things 
as fact.  He could have, in the origional track, imagined the figure, and 
created his patronus from the happy thought of being saved by his father...  
he then takes this knowlege into the past with him where he assumes that he 
saw himself, and creates the Patronus again.  This creates only the tinyest 
of blips in the timeline, because the only change is the direction in which 
the patronus appears from.  Harry now doesn't know the difference, and the 
second event becomes cemented in time.

did that make sence? i had a little trouble getting my theories out here...

-scheherazade, tounge tied


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