Time Only Moves Forward Theory

[Steve <bboy_mn@yahoo.com>]

No: HPFGUIDX 48960

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, alicit at a... wrote:
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> ...edited...
> 
> Second, your 'time moving on' theory is good, and is the basis
> theory for our discussions on the beginning of the "time loop"  
> However there are two things different:
> 
> A) by my (and a few other's) reasoning, the time loop is more like
>  the loop in a roller coster than a never ending continuum.  Harry 
> and Hermione move on one track, only it doubles back over the same 
> period of time once (or maybe twice, without them knowing?)
> 
> b) where do H2&h2 come from?  They cannot merely appear, because 
> they needed some way (the timeturner) to go back and become H2&H2. 
> If Harry was kissed by the dementor, he could not have gone back in 
> time (or, not without some difficulty!)
> 
> So i prepose that we look at the 'time loop' in the roller coaster 
> way.  Time would be the ground, it is straight, no loops.  Harry & 
> Hermione's  experience is the coaster track: they generally go 
> forward until something: the timeturner,  makes them turn around. 
> They need to access the timeturner (ie. the loop in the track) to 
> be able to 'redo' a period of time.  
>
> ...edited...
> 
> -scheherazade, tounge tied

bboy_mn responds:

See, the problem I have is the belief that someone had to "REDO a
period of time".

The history of the world only occurs once. It's never redone. It may
be re-written, but it is never redone at least not in conscientious,
honorable, safe, and sanely applied time travel. (In my 'Time Moves
Forward Theory')

There seems to be (and I could very easily be mistaken) the believe
that the history of Harry1/Hermione1 occurred then they went back in
time and 're-did' or re-lived that history again. That the first time
history was lived, there was only one Harry and Hermione, and the
second time there were two.

But if we only allow time to go forward; marching from the past into
the present then off into the future, then the events only occur once.
 One and only one time.

It is a historically documented fact (well, sort of a fiction
historical fact) that at some point in time; a second Harry and
Hermione appeared. 

Time starts moving forward, there is only one Harry and Hermione. Then
H/H/R go out and start down to Hagrid's, and a second Harry and
Hermione appear in the castle. That is the way history played out.
During that three hours, it is a historical, one time only, fact that
there were two Harrys and Hermiones. 

As time moves forward, we reach the end of that three hours and
discover WHY there were two of each for that three hour period. The
reason; they used the time turner. But a new history doesn't start
with the use of the time turner. There is only one general history of
the world, and in that history, a second set of Harry and Hermione
appear, and three hours later one of the sets disappeared. There are
witnesses, that is the way history played out, it is a one time only
documented fact.

When we first read of the history of this three hours, we are simply
unaware of the existance of the second set of Harry and Hermione, but
they are there. They always were there, and they always will have been
there during that three hours. 

During the second account of that historical three hours, we simple
see it documented from another perspective. History in now written
with more availabe data. 

The fact that Harry was there the alledged first time through history
to cast the Petronus charm, proves that the second Harry was always
there. His existance is documented proof that there are alway two
Harrys in existance as that three hours of history plays out. 

So starting in the past and moving forward, we reach a time and date
in history where it is a documented fact that a second Harry and
Hermione appear. Three hours later, it is a documented historic fact
that one set disappeared, and time continues on.

I see only one history with two sets of Harry and Hermione, not one
history with and another history without. 

It is only when you start in the future and attempt to go back that
you get this dual history phenomena. If you just let history play out,
you realize that H2/H2 always have been and always will be there
during that three hours. It's a historical fact. When Harry and
Hermoine use the time turner, that doesn't create history, it only
explains why history played out the way it did.

It is because there can only be one and only one history of the world,
that time travel is so dangerous. If your sudden appearance in the
time line alters event that are already document proven history. Then
the world of physics is thrown into chaos. The foundation of the whole
universe becomes destablized. It's like a bomb going off in the fabric
of time. Very dangerous business, this time travel. Harry and Hermione
do not alter any documented history. In the end, all they have done is
confirmed or perhaps documented how and why history played out the
first and only time.

Of course, that's just my opinion.

bboy_mn