Invisibility Cloaks and Lupin the man/werewolf(PoA time travel James/Remus thing)

[Susan Atherton]

No: HPFGUIDX 48999

>Susan:
> If Mad Eye Moody's magical eye and the Marauder's Map can see Harry
in his Cloak, it would indicate that the Cloak is not completely
impervious. (It's been hinted in PS and CoS that Dumbledore can even
see through it, magical eye or not) So do the same old laws of physics
that bind the rest of us bind someone wearing a Cloak? If they can be
felt and touched, they obviously don't disappear, they are just
concealed. So do they cast a shadow? And if, as I suspect, they do,
why doesn't anyone notice?!


>bboy_mn:
As far as Moodies eye, it's possible that Moodies eye picks up
infrared light spectrum allowing him to see heat, and among other
things, do a reasonably good job of seeing in the dark. So when he
sees through Harry cloak, all he may really be seeing is heat patterns.
>An alternate, is that the eye enhances Moody's psychic abilities, so
that it is in his minds eye, or inner eye, his preception rather than
in his visual eye that he sees things.

Me: I think this is probably more likely, that Moody can sense that "Harry
Potter is under that cloak" rather than heat patterns which would just tell
him that "someone short is standing under that cloak, it must be a student,
oh, I bet it's Harry Potter" as he can see Harry mouthing at him "It's
mine!" about the map. If it was just a heat pattern, he might GUESS that
from any possible agitation of the outline, but he wouldn't react as quickly
as he does (I don't think!)

>bboy:
>If we assume that it is not a physical charactistic of the cloth, but
a way in which the cloth enchants the wearer or the viewer, a wise,
old, and powerful wizard like Dumbledore may not be enchanted or
fooled so easily.
>So, in summary, as with Moody, Dumbledore may not necessarily see
Harry or see through the cloak, as much as he merely preceives their
presents and general location. Clues could come from heat, sound,
slight visual distortion, gravity, foot prints on the floor, there
could be lots of tiny little clues that are missed by most people.

Me again: I think that the idea of Dumbledore the powerful wizard seeing
throught the cloak is a good one, although I personally think he'd spot the
footprints and distortions and the like. The reason I like the Dumbledore
the Powerful thing is because it helps answer another question to me - why
James Potter and his family, who were being hunted down by a very evil and
powerful wizard, gave their sodding Invisibility Cloak to Dumbledore for
safekeeping!! If Voldemort could see THROUGH the cloaks, like Dumbledore -
well, it'd work on DE's, but if V himself is looking for you, you may as
well try and protect your valuables!



And as far as the PoA time travel/Lupin casting the Patronus thread goes -
didn't Lupin's wand get nabbed by Pettigrew as soon as he Changed? I think
Lupin was a real wolf, not a humanoid guy - he was no way in a state to find
his wand and cast a Patronus without anyone seeing him - Dog!Sirius attacked
him as it was dropped and chased him away from HHR!

Oh yeah, and the Michael J Fox movie in which he became a teenage werewolf
was called, um, Teen Wolf. Doy ;)

Susan
(who, like, LOVED that movie when she was a kid)