[HPforGrownups] Death In OotP/ Books 6 and 7/Voldemort's Fate?

[Laura Ingalls Huntley]

No: HPFGUIDX 49044

Wow..It's been awhile since I've had time to post.  Ah well, I figure with
three weeks off for christmas holidays I can do alot of damage...

Don't know whose list this is, sorry...
> Book 5:
>
> Hagrid
> Dennis Creevey (maybe)
> Igor Karkaroff
>
> Book 6:
>
> Dennis Creevey (if he doesn't die in Book 5)
> Remus Lupin
> Fred Weasley (or George, but only one of them)
> Arthur Weasley
> Penelope Clearwater
> Draco Malfoy (or early book 7)
> Arabella Figg
> Peter Pettigrew
> Anybody who suddenly becomes very likeable (as Cedric Diggory did).
> A few various parents of students.
>
> Book 7:
>
> Lucius Malfoy
> various DE's
> More parents of students, cousins, etc.
> Mad Eye Moody (the real one)
> Mundungus Fletcher
> Molly Weasley
> Bill Weasley
> Ron Weasley
> Dumbledore

Oryomai replied:
>Where's Hermione?  I believe that the only way Harry will have the ...
>*searches for word* ... inspiration!  to kill the Dark Lord will be if he's
>alone.  It would teach a powerful lesson, one that I believe in
>wholeheartedly: "In the end, you're all you've got.  That's the point."
(Yeah
>Buffy!)

Hmm..I really don't see Harry needing both his best friends dead to defeat
Voldie.  I mean, he has certainly demonstrated the ability to fight evil
with and without them, so it's not a case of Ron and Hermione holding him
back.  I do agree that it would be very...dramatically sound, if JKR were to
kill someone very close to Harry in order to send him into a rage (blah blah
blah...whether this would be seen as postive or, like his rage at Sirius,
negative, I'm not sure).  You know, make it personal (he seems to have very
little rage at Voldie for his parents - at least nothing like he had for
Sirius).  However, in order to do that she only really needs to kill one
person, and it doesn't have to be either Ron or Hermione.  Killing Hagrid,
for instance, would definitely be motivation enough to set Harry on the
warpath.

On the other hand, she's sort of already played that card (with Sirius), so
I'm not sure she'd do it again.  And I don't believe she'll kill off both
Ron and Hermione.  It's just not really her style - she can be dark - but
she's rarely gratuitously cruel.

>I also don't think Draco will die.  Which in itself is another
>lesson: evil never dies.  Draco will be the only "big bad" left.
>Of course, this is going on the idea that Harry will defeat Voldemort.
>*thinks* That might not be the case.  Who says Harry's going to defeat him?
>We all *assume* that that will happen...but there's no canon is there?  I
>know, I know, it's a theory.  But it might not be correct.  Any thoughts as
>to what will happen to LV if Harry doesn't smite him?

Hmm...it does seem likely that someone will do away with the old LV by the
end of Book Seven, as otherwise there really wouldn't be any closure, and I
don't really think Jo's plan is to leave us with a angsty, depressing
Voldie-has-taken-over-the-world-and-everyone-has-been-killed-or-worse
scenario.  The darkest she'll probably get is letting Harry die, which would
really be a shame - poor kid.

I also believe that Azkaban as we know it (inhumane, dementors, etc.) will
be gone by the end of the series, which doesn't leave much of a way of
*imprisoning* LV.  I don't think a prison with plain wizard guards could
hold him -- although, now that I think about it, the dementors probably
wouldn't even *try* to hold him...

Anyway, I'll quit rambling now.  Sorry if none of this makes sense, I've
been doing college applications nonstop for five days -- brain's a little
shot.

Laura (who isn't even going to bother reading back over what she's written -
bad girl.)