[HPforGrownups] Re: Hogwarts Exams and education
Muridae
muridae at muridae.co.uk
Sun Feb 3 17:37:31 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 34575
grey_wolf_c wrote:
>--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "blpurdom" <blpurdom at y...> wrote:
>
>> I believe they have exams set for them at the end of each term:
>> autumn, spring and summer. It was only the exams at the end of the
>> summer term that were cancelled.
>>
>> --Barb
>
>Do you have any Canon to back that up? I don't recall any exam (not
>even "surprise exams" as the ones I get to keep us students on our toes
>the whole year) apart from the ones just before the summer.
>
>Anyway, has it been discussed the sort of education Harry's year in
>general and Harry himself are receiving? I mean, exams get cancelled
>pretty often (Harry's only done two series of exams in four years), and
>people like Crabbe, Goyle and Longbottom seem to pass without too many
>dificulties. Also, the only known cases of poeple flunking and
>repeating a year are Flint (and it was a flint, thus the name of JKR's
>errors, I think), and some other Quiditch captain (again a possible
>flint). Is it me, or is the education REALLY low-case?
Well, assuming that Hogwarts' school curriculum follows the English
school model (note that I don't say British, because Scotland has its
own education system which is somewhat different)... the really
important exams would come at the end of the fifth and seventh years.
Fifth year would be the O.W.L.'s (O Level/GCSE equivalents), and seventh
year would be the N.E.W.T.'s (A Level equivalents).
Exams in other years would be purely internal things to enable the
teachers to assess the general progress of their students and how much
of what was being taught them they were actually retaining. Since they
could probably figure that out to some extent from spot tests thoughout
the year, plus homework marks and general coursework, the cancellation
of those exams would be less critical. Although my guess would be that
the fifth and seventh year students of Harry's second year probably
*did* sit their O.W.L.'s and N.E.W.T.'s, despite the cancellation of all
other exams, either at the time or at a rescheduled date later on.
Do we know whether Cedric Diggory was a sixth or seventh year student at
the time of the TriWizard Tournament? I've always assumed the former,
but can't remember if his year has ever been stated. Certainly it would
be more convenient if he were a sixth year student since it would mean
that neither he nor Harry would have been due to sit any of the
important exams that year and could therefore be given special
dispensation not to have to sit the others. I suspect that a number of
otherwise eligible seventh year students may have declined to enter the
tournament in order to give their full attention to the N.E.W.T.'s.
Flint's repeated year probably means that he flunked either his O.W.L.'s
or N.E.W.T.'s and had to resit that year rather than any other. And I'd
think it most likely that it would have been the O.W.L.'s, since he
might have simply left and pursued a career that didn't require high
academic results if he'd done excessively badly on his N.E.W.T.'s but
had also reached statutory school leaving age.
One thing I do wonder though is what that statutory school leaving age
is in the wizarding world? Based solely on a comparison with Muggle
schools, you might expect some students to leave after doing their
O.W.L.'s, if they weren't academically inclined, and a much smaller
number from each year stay on into the sixth and seventh year. There's
nothing in canon to date to indicate that it may be the case, since
nobody seems to leave before the end of the seventh year, but that may
merely be the Harry POV and that all of the people he knows in the
higher years have stayed on, for whatever reason.
It's an interesting thing to speculate on however, if only for the way
that it might potentially change the balance of power in Harry's year if
some of the students did leave after the fifth year. Crabbe and Goyle
aren't particularly bright, so Draco Malfoy might suddenly find himself
bereft of his two sidekicks. How might that change his behaviour?
--
Muridae
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