Lucius / Curses /Resisting Imperius / Galleons / Prefects / Sirius Eye Color

catlady_de_los_angeles catlady at wicca.net
Tue Feb 12 05:04:10 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 35059

Eileen Lucky Kari wrote:

>  I'm looking to Lucius  to betray Voldie when the time comes, and 
> can't see why Voldemort isn't expecting it.

Voldemort dotes on Lucius: look at the affectionate way he speaks to 
him in the graveyard scene: teacher's pet. My original idea was that 
Voldemort was still Tom Riddle who had been raised by Muggles to be 
working-class and he is just utterly thrilled that he gets to hang 
out with a toff. Then I studied time-lines and got the idea that 
Lucius could be Riddle's godson (I call him Tom Riddle while he still 
looks human and Voldemort once his immortality spells have made him 
look like a snake monster, which I figure happened in 1968 or so and 
was his cue to start assembling Death Eaters and committing public 
atrocities), Lucius's utter degree of evil could be the result of 
Riddle having been his childhood influence...

Tabouli wrote:

> Then again, would Lucius want to rule the world? (What do people 
> think?) (SNIP) what would fuel Lucius? 

Living up to his family tradition of trying to rule the world.

jklb66 wrote:

> The AK is an unforgivable curse BECAUSE it kills someone,

We don't KNOW that. We don't know what makes a curse Unforgiveable, 
whether it is something about the effect of the curse (maybe because 
it is unblockable as JM potter suggested) or something about the 
method of casting the curse (maybe because it requires the caster to 
be in a mood of absolute calm certainty of not caring about human 
life, as I think someone suggested recently). 

We also don't know what makes Dark Arts dark -- btw are there any 
Dark spells other than curses?   

> The real question is, how was Harry going to kill Sirius? He 
> doesn't learn about AK until 4th year.

Levitate your enemy and drop him from a great height. Levitate a 
heavy object and drop it on him. Banish a sharp knife at his throat 
(remember, when they were practising Banishing pillows, there was one 
box they were aiming for?). Transfigure part of the wall of his aorta 
to tissue paper, when will promptly (and wetly) burst from the 
pressure of the blood and he will die of massive hemmorrhage.    

Rose Swicegood wrote of Harry resisting Imperius:

> What then is the voice that guides him? I say it's the great wizard
> Griffyndor, and Harry is somehow a throwback to the old wizard. 

I think that's a new idea (at, I don't remember having heard anyone 
else suggest it before) but I still prefer to believe that that voice 
was Lily's, that the last magic she did was not merely to save 
Harry's life, but also to leave her loving and guiding voice/image in 
his mind. Having an 'imaginary mum' (like imaginary friend, except 
not quite as imaginary) to comfort him in his cupboard under the 
stairs would definitely have helped him survive the Dursleys.

Unc Mark wrote:

> Galleons would have to be worth more [than five pounds] if only for
> the fact that in Chamber of Secrets the Weasleys buy the entire 
> school supplies for 4 students for "a very small pile of sickles
> and just one gold galleon." 

Not to mention seven Galleons for a wand, with a phoenix feather 
core, that might last a lifetime. I suppose Galleons are really 
somewhere in the $25 to $50 range in current Muggle money. I think 
Galleons were the 'foreign' coins 'the size of hubcaps' that the 
Muggle campground manager complained of in GoF, far different from 
'the size of a nickel', so they must be onl gold clad or maybe some 
weird alloy (the Sacajawea dollar is alloy-clad and turns brown with 
use). 

Suzanne siskiou wrote:

> Do we know how a prefect is chosen in the HP universe? Does it 
> have to do with getting good marks, or exemplary behavior or a 
> combination of both?

It can't REQUIRE exemplary behavior, because James was a prefect and 
his House Master (McGonagall) remembers him (affectionately) as a 
big-time troublemaker. Also, Slytherin House has to have prefects 
like the other Houses.

Tabouli wrote:

> Sirius, OTOH, with his fiery, tempestuous nature, should be a man
> of fiery, tempestuous contrast in his appearance (Viggo who played
> Aragorn is the right type).

I went to fan sites to check photoes: Viggo's eyes seem to be brown 
or amber; I like for Sirius to have amber eyes with his black hair. 






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