Re: Florence, Bertha and C.U.P.I.D.’S.B.L.U.D.G.E.R. (WAS C.U.P.I.D.’S.B.L.U.D.G

[charisjulia]

No: HPFGUIDX 35206

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "cindysphynx" <cindysphynx at h...> wrote:
> 
> What?  No Mercy, Mercy II or Prince?  They can't even get a nod, a 
> wave, a cavalier dismissal?  Ouch!

   My sincere apologies! As I said I'm right in the midst of exams 
and therefore have fallen lamentably behind in my post-readings. 
Though I register their existence, my understanding of Mercy, Mercy 
II and Prince of Lies isn't stable enough to risk mentioning them in 
a post. On Saturday I plan a grand past-post feast! Till then... well 
I shouldn't  be here right now even... But, hey! I'm entitled to a 
half-hour break for goodness sake!-- Charis bashes unruly conscience 
into place... 


Cindy wrote:
> <raises hand>  It was I, Captain, who has forever planted the image 
> of "Poor Pitiful Snape Fondling Pictures Of Lily While Shivering 
> Alone In The Dungeon" in your mind.  Sorry.  It was an ugly job, 
but 
> someone had to do it. :-)

You're forgiven! It's my fault for entering this highly-dangerous-for-
your-mental-health chamber in the first place... Other HP musings of 
mine have been severely damaged before now...
> 
> Charis Julia again (explaining the new theory):
> 
> >No, I think that all in all I shall stick to my initial 
> > explanation of events, a little theory of my own that I have been 
> > nursing for  almost two years now: Severus fell in love with, not 
> > James's, but Sirius's girl!


Cindy again: 
> I would like to serve as tugboat and see if I can help push this 
> Sirius & Snape SHIP theory out into the open water.  ::looks around 
> on deck for canon, finds mostly speculation:: 

 Point taken. But do L.O.L.L.I.P.O.P.S.& Co have a firmer basis on 
Canon? Uh-oh! Am I showing off my apalling lack of information on 
recent posts again? Don't throttle me guys! I'll refrain from 
expressing opinion on matter till have caught up again. 


Cindy again:
> I've always wondered what was going on in Dumbledore's Pensieve.  A 
> sixteen-year old Bertha Jorkins appears and delivers one line:  "He 
> put a hex on me, Professor Dumbledore, and I was only teasing him, 
> sir, I only said I'd seen him kissing Florence behind the 
greenhouses 
> last Thursday. . . ."  Dumbledore replies, "But why, Bertha, . . . 
> why did you have to follow him in the first place?"
> 
> We know for certain that Sirius (and therefore Snape) was in school 
> with Bertha.  So . . . Florence must have been Snape's girlfriend, 
> Sirius was kissing her and generally putting the moves on her, and 
> Sirius cursed Bertha when he thought she was going to tell Snape.  
> That makes some sense -- what woman dating Snape would say no to a 
> little romp with Sirius?  :-)  Sirius put some sort of curse on 
> Bertha (botched memory charm?), but Bertha later told Snape 
> everything she had seen.  
> 
> This caused Snape to hate Sirius and the Marauders even more.  They 
> have everything, don't they?  Popularity, academic success, 
athletic 
> ability, women, werewolf adventures, good looks, clean hair.  But 
> that's not enough.  Noooo, Sirius has to fool around with Snape's 
> girlfriend, not because Sirius loves her, but just because Sirius 
> can.  Snape won't take Florence back because of her betrayal, but 
he 
> loves her, so he prefers to blame Sirius rather than Florence.
> 
> The Prank probably came after the Kissing incident.  Bertha was "a 
> few years ahead" of the Marauders at Hogwarts.  The Marauders 
didn't 
> learn how to become Animagi until their fifth year, IIRC.  So the 
> Kissing happens, then the Prank comes later.  And the Prank was the 
> Last Straw for Snape. ::shades of Prince:: 
> 
> Note that the theory does not require a belief that Sirius actually 
> put a memory charm on Bertha, although he may have tried to.  

Aha! The idea has merit! Yes! And is completely consistent with 
JKRowling's habit of giving out tit-bits of information about what is 
to come to an unsuspecting reader who thinks she is just spicing up a 
scene! But does Florence have to be Snape's girlfriend and not 
Sirius's? I rather liked the idea of Sirius in love! And would Sirius 
really be likely to go after a girl interested in Snape? AND this 
messes up my Tragic Element! But, hey! If it works for you, I've no 
problem! Your scenario still fits in with the basic 
C.U.P.I.D.'S.B.L.U.D.G.E.R. framework. So hop on board if you feel 
inclined to!


Charis Julia, who thanks her sturdy tugboat!