James and Snape (was SHIP: Cupid's Snitch and Cupid's Quaffle)

[Edblanning at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 35669

In a message dated 22/02/02 02:06:13 GMT Standard Time, skelkins at attbi.com 
writes:


> Now personally, I don't think that any additional motivation for 
> hatred between these two men other than what has already been 
> provided by canon is in the least bit necessary.  It makes perfect 
> sense to me that they never liked each other to begin with, that the 
> potential lethality of the Prank was a matter of pure and simple 
> thoughtlessness on Sirius' part, that Dumbledore's reaction 
> infuriated and disillusioned young Severus, that his conviction that 
> Black really always *had* been by nature a murderer was confirmed in 
> his own mind by later events, and that what happened at the end of 
> PoA did absolutely nothing to make either of the two men like each 
> other any better.  Here I am in full agreement with Pippin and 
> Charis: what canon has already given us seems like *more* than enough 
> to account for their mutual antipathy.  To my way of thinking,
> anyway.  
> 

At the risk of being heretical......
The same argument can be made regarding Snape and James - and hence by 
extension, Harry.
James and Sirius were pretty much (totally?) identified with each other, so 
that the Prank embittered Snape just as much against James as against Sirius 
: more so in fact, since he had the gall to save his life.
Moreover Dumbledore likens the Snape/ James antipathy to that between Draco 
and Harry: in other words, it was *always* there, not something that arose 
later because  ( runs for cover before being flattened by canon fire from the 
good ship Lollipop) James gets the girl (and then gets her killed).
Then there's the addition of James preventing him from fulfilling the 
life-debt, by getting himself killed.
Then there's that dratted child with all the recognition, who keeps defeating 
Voldy as if it were a game, when he's been fighting him all those years 
secretly, with no recognition at all. I know I've said it all before, when I 
was very new and  before I knew better, but...well, I'm sorry, I'm afraid I 
still feel like that.

It struck me to wonder... suppose Draco ended up teaching at Hogwarts and 
Harry's son, who bore him a remarkable likeness, except for those dark eyes/ 
flaming red hair/ oversized incisors (whatever, I don't know what you 
shippers get up to) turned up. Just how do you think he would feel about  
said son-of-Harry? Any better than Snape does about Harry? somehow, I doubt 
it.

What I'd like to know is the basis of James' and Snape's animosity *at the 
beginning*. There could be another back story ( and I'll let you graft 
Lollipops on, if you like, but not as a prime motive)
I've wondered about various things. What if there was a long standing 
animosity between the Snapes and the Potters? Similar to that between the 
Weasleys and the Malfoys. We don't know anything about Harry's grandparents. 
What if James' father was an Auror and resposible for depriving Severus of 
his father?
Now *that* would be a reason for boning up on all those curses before you get 
to school.

>Now, if someone could please tell me why Severus has such poor 
>grooming habits.  I'd love to buy him a big bottle of shampoo and 
>make him an appointment for teeth cleaning with Hermione's parents.  
>Maybe I'd even make him something chocolate to cheer him up. ;)

Personally, I wonder if its sucking too many L.O.L.L.I.P.O.P.S. that's given 
him the yellow teeth :-) !

Eloise, who realises that she's behaving very ungratefully after Tabouli was 
kind enough to give her a ride in the FLIRTIAC dinghy and salutes 
respectfully as the cannon balls whizz past her ears.



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