prior incantato/priori incantatem & Sirius' wand
meglet2
mercia at ireland.com
Thu Feb 28 16:55:19 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 35870
This relates to the discussion of the possibility that Sirius'
innocence could have been proved by forcing his wand to reveal the
last spell performed as is done through 'prior incantato' on Harry's
wand after the Quidditch World Cup. When someone queried that on the
basis of Dumbledore's description of priori incantatem as something
extremely rare and the involuntary effect of two wands sharing the
same magical core it was pointed out that these seem to be two
different matters. Prior incantato is definitely a spell (it is even
called simple by Fudge) whereas priori incantatem is more of a
curious effect - Dumbledore or Sirius (can't remember which and
haven't got GoF to hand at the moment) call it the reverse spell
effect. It is certainly not in the control of the wizard and if it
depends on the wands being 'brothers' it would not be of general use.
But I am a bit confused by all this. My Latin is very rusty and never
was that good but these just look to me like declension differences.
Is incantato/incantatem a noun or verb. If noun in which case;
incantato looks like a dative or ablative to me and incantatem an
accusative. What is the relationship to prior or priori? That also
looks like a matter of declension to me. I sort of vaguely related it
to the phrase a priori (which is ablataive case, right?) but then
realised I wasn't quite sure in what way that was used. Are there any
Latin scholars out there who could define why JKR used these two
different forms for the two instances mentioned and if they could
therefore be two separate things? Or did she get confused herself and
make a mistake in specifying such particular circumstances for priori
incantatem?
On the slightly different matter of Sirius' lost wand, it is quite
right that he 'borrowed' wands in the Shrieking Shack. But in that
case I wonder how he was planning to kill Peter before getting access
to a wand. Strangling him with his his bare hands? It seemed more
accidental than planned that he had a few wizards around with wands
when he finally cornered Peter? Or if Crookshanks had managed to get
Peter to Sirius as a rat, was he going to keep form as Padfoot and
eat him? (He lives on rats while hiding out in the cave in GoF)
Though come to think of it that would not have worked as he would at
least have needed Peter's body to prove his innocence. Has Sirius
managed to get hold of a wand even by GoF? He will surely need one to
take his full magical part in the fight to come. Presumably now he is
going to be lying low with Lupin, Remus can acquire one for him.
Although if the wand chooses the wizard sending someone else to buy
one for you would be less than ideal. How in that case could Sirius
get a wand? Do you think there might be black market dealers in wands
in the WW who will supply wands to shady characters no questions
asked? Is it heresy to think JKR might not have fully thought out
some of these complications. She really had better get the next book
out before sheer frustration at the delay has us all analysing the
thing to bits.
Mercia
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